asitis Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 It really would be nice to know what to believe about the green credentials or otherwise of wind generation. As I said before I don't know but it's like may things these days there are always opposing views. The point I was making is we have to get this right, we don't have the money to get it wrong. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 10 hours ago, Happier diner said: You are criticising what's been done but then saying you have no idea what you would do differently. Onshore wind is bang for bucks the cheapest way to generate any electricity and is also renewable. Do some research yourself, then believe yourself. Shame about the reliability and it still needs 100% reliable backup. Interconnectors are the way to go. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 11 minutes ago, CallMeCurious said: Shame about the reliability and it still needs 100% reliable backup. Interconnectors are the way to go. That's exactly what the plan is isn't it? Solar and wind with 2 new interconnectors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercenary Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 36 minutes ago, CallMeCurious said: Shame about the reliability and it still needs 100% reliable backup. Interconnectors are the way to go. Even with interconnector the marginal cost of onshore wind stacks up. If you have to build interconnector(s) for resilience / grid stability you still have to buy electric at wholesale which is generally linked to current gas price (hedging strategies aside) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 56 minutes ago, Mercenary said: Even with interconnector the marginal cost of onshore wind stacks up. If you have to build interconnector(s) for resilience / grid stability you still have to buy electric at wholesale which is generally linked to current gas price (hedging strategies aside) The interconnectors are needed because the existing one is at the end of its life. They will also be needed to top up what solar and wind don't provide . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercenary Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Happier diner said: The interconnectors are needed because the existing one is at the end of its life. They will also be needed to top up what solar and wind don't provide . Yes I'm saying interconnector doesn't massively alter economics of building out onshore wind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newaccount Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 JFDI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTail Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Interesting article in the Sunday Times today about Terrapower a company developing small nuclear reactors. Looks ideal for the Isle of Man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 18 minutes ago, NoTail said: Interesting article in the Sunday Times today about Terrapower a company developing small nuclear reactors. Looks ideal for the Isle of Man. It looks interesting. Still at research stage though. Also they are still a power of 10 bigger than our requirement. They haven't actually built one yet have they? The trouble with IOM is we are very small. Nuclear plants dont scale down well. The reactor bit is possible but all the ancillary items that are required mean the unit price will ramp up massively at the bottom end of the scale. You still need cooling tanks, steam turbines etc. Maybe one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 2 hours ago, NoTail said: Interesting article in the Sunday Times today about Terrapower a company developing small nuclear bombs. Looks ideal for the Isle of Man. fixed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Nope, nuclear + Tinpot knobheads on the hill= the purchase of one humongous carpet and the biggest brush you have ever seen when they try and sweep the fuck up's they have made under it. Look at the fuck up when it was just a few nuclear sheep.? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 According to this no small modular nuclear reactors have been built. https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0fzltvd/what-they-really-mean-for-you-series-1-2-heat-pumps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebushy Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 31 minutes ago, Moghrey Mie said: According to this no small modular nuclear reactors have been built. https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0fzltvd/what-they-really-mean-for-you-series-1-2-heat-pumps On that basis, pretty sure IOM government will go for it! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 34 minutes ago, littlebushy said: On that basis, pretty sure IOM government will go for it! No they won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Oh yes they will. Boom,tish 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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