Happier diner Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Cambon said: Interesting thought, HD. There used to be a wind turbine at the airport, so I assume the nav and comms equipment can cope. 5 minutes ago, Cambon said: Interesting thought, HD. There used to be a wind turbine at the airport, so I assume the nav and comms equipment can cope. I don't think there has ever been a wind turbine if the scale we are talking here. Genuine question. Have you ever seen an airport with wind turbines around it? Also, I always understood it was windier at the top of hills than it is at sea level. Go up snaefell on a windless day and you will invariably find it very windy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 56 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Have you ever seen an airport with wind turbines around it? Standing on the tarmac waiting to board at John Lennon last Saturday I was struck by the large amount of wind turbines gently turning to the wind. Couldn't estimate the distance and it definitely wasn't a mirage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 1 minute ago, quilp said: Standing on the tarmac waiting to board at John Lennon last Saturday I was struck by the large amount of wind turbines gently turning to the wind. Couldn't estimate the distance and it definitely wasn't a mirage. Oh wait! What's this..? https://www.liverpoolairport.com/news/2008/09/wind-of-change-at-airport-as-jla-becomes-first-uk-airport-to-use-wind-turbines 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, quilp said: was struck by the large amount of wind I hope it wasn't too embarrasing 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Just now, Happier diner said: I hope it wasn't too embarrasing 🤣 See the link brainbox... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, quilp said: See the link brainbox... I did. Yes it's interesting. Do we know how close to the runways they are? It says they are on the approach road. It also says that interference with navigation equipment is a consideration. They are also only 15m high which is tiny. Edited September 9, 2023 by Happier diner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 They have to be 15,000ft from the airport extremity. Height restricted yes, that's probably why there's a few of them. It's all in that article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 3 hours ago, quilp said: They have to be 15,000ft from the airport extremity. Height restricted yes, that's probably why there's a few of them. It's all in that article. 15,000ft is over 4000m. If you take a radius of 4000m around our runways most of that radius would be offshore ,(which is ironic) and would place the wind turbines at Ballabeg if onshore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bees Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 17 hours ago, quilp said: See the link brainbox... Ooooh what’s todo with you? I think they were making a joke. Not as funny as being up at 7am (which is 5am IRL) to go paddle boarding with the dullest people on the planet… that, is really funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
code99 Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 The US Inflation Reduction Act 2022 commits America to embrace green technologies manufactured inside the US. The US Government will stump up about $800b and, according to Goldman Sachs, the US private sector will invest a further $1.7t. Of course, this ‘green revolution’ is in part predicated by Trump not winning the US Presidential Elections next year and not decreeing coal as the national fruit and fossil fuels as essential oils. Western democracies are also trying to wean themselves off China. Paradoxically, the more the US invests in their green revolution the more challenging it will be for Western companies and governments outside the US and China to ‘go green’. For instance, the Australian Federal (Labour) Government is very keen on encouraging investments in locally manufactured green energy infrastructure like solar panels, wind turbines, tidal wave technology, etc. Their problem is that Australia can’t financially compete with the US for investments and expertise (scientists, engineers and other specialists are being lured to the US by the money they can earn there). Consequently, some of Australia’s green energy projects have already been binned. It is likely that Europeans are facing similar struggles to attract green energy technology investments for their projects. Another example is the recent auction for UK seven offshore wind projects which was a total flop. The IOMG has to navigate these same dynamics. Without Government subsidies, green projects aren’t likely to ever get much traction here. The IOMG must dot the financial i’s and cross the practical t’s before committing to any green projects, including this wind farm project. Spending £40m may not be very much by international standards, but with IOMG finances currently eroding at a rapid rate, that sort of cash is getting harder and harder to find. Unless the wind farm project is handled competently, after investing/spending £40m the Island could be left high and dry. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 3 hours ago, 2bees said: Ooooh what’s todo with you? I think they were making a joke. Not as funny as being up at 7am (which is 5am IRL) to go paddle boarding with the dullest people on the planet… that, is really funny. I was indeed making a joke. Also my facts were correct. Maybe @quilpwill be in a better mood today👍👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 52 minutes ago, Happier diner said: I was indeed making a joke. Also my facts were correct. Maybe @quilpwill be in a better mood today👍👍 Maybe I forgot the jocular smiley, but at the same time your attempt at humour was lost on me. @2bees 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah 01 Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 1 hour ago, code99 said: £40m the Island could be left high and dry. ....when there is no requirement for it in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bees Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 47 minutes ago, quilp said: Maybe I forgot the jocular smiley, but at the same time your attempt at humour was lost on me. @2bees I’ve got involved with dull people on holiday, really really dull and we’re stuck with them. Up at 7am to go paddle boarding with them, not funny. It wasn’t humour I was just using the forum for a spot of beemoaning, so don’t worry about anything being lost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Colombe Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 1 hour ago, 2bees said: I’ve got involved with dull people on holiday, really really dull and we’re stuck with them. Up at 7am to go paddle boarding with them, not funny. Make the most of it, you'll miss them when they leave home. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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