WTF Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Happier diner said: You mean by UK power at any cost? We would be firmly held by the goolies then wouldn't we? it's a job job we produce our own fuel for our current electrical supplier then........................ oh wait , we don't ,we have to buy it in from someone holding our goolies , might as well buy the electric instead and not have to pay for our own insular power generation at the bottom end of the 'economies of scale' ladder. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, WTF said: it's a job job we produce our own fuel for our current electrical supplier then........................ oh wait , we don't ,we have to buy it in from someone holding our goolies , might as well buy the electric instead and not have to pay for our own insular power generation at the bottom end of the 'economies of scale' ladder. Well, that's where the wind comes in. We don't have to pay for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 41 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said: Well, that's where the wind comes in. We don't have to pay for that. but the cost of the equipment divided by its working life doesn't make for cheap electricity either , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 1 minute ago, WTF said: but the cost of the equipment divided by its working life doesn't make for cheap electricity either , What are you using as the basis for the working life? See here for a previous back of an envelope calculation. I am open to corrections and amendments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South cape Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 2 hours ago, The Phantom said: I'm sure it was even less than that. 200bhp is about the power of a hot-hatch. Approx... 1kw = 1.5hp An average house needs about 10kw per day. The entire Laxey Wheel would therefore power a total of 13 houses. and the 200 horses power was using all the water they could get from around laxey ,some of the lades went past glen roy and up to snaefell and even then the mines ran short of water in summer . the amount of water they use now is a mere trickle of what was used before 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 You are all forgetting the elephant in the room, Namely the Manx government's need to fleece the manx general public to enable it to service the illegal loans Proffit and his crew took out. Not to mention the fact pay for the pyramid scheme of pension. Also Allinsons statement he will keep on raping reserves for his full five year tenure and no plans what so ever to balance the budget boots. Which twonk thought this muppet was a good choice for tresury. It is a rhetorical question by the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTail Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Could you consider rewriting that post in a way that makes sense? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majkul Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, Dirty Buggane said: You are all forgetting the elephant in the room, Namely the Manx government's need to fleece the manx general public to enable it to service the illegal loans Proffit and his crew took out. Not to mention the fact pay for the pyramid scheme of pension. Also Allinsons statement he will keep on raping reserves for his full five year tenure and no plans what so ever to balance the budget boots. Which twonk thought this muppet was a good choice for tresury. It is a rhetorical question by the way The way I see it, is that Mike Proffitt (by name, and by nature) paved the way for the charlatans running the show now. So the attitude is, take as much as you can, as quick as you can. The bit of shit you gotta put up with for doing so, is well worth all the dirty money you can live on, for the rest of your days. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, WTF said: but the cost of the equipment divided by its working life doesn't make for cheap electricity either , Yes it does. Payback in 7 years. There is nothing cheaper than wind power. Nothing. 5 hours ago, WTF said: it's a job job we produce our own fuel for our current electrical supplier then........................ oh wait , we don't ,we have to buy it in from someone holding our goolies , might as well buy the electric instead and not have to pay for our own insular power generation at the bottom end of the 'economies of scale' ladder. Using wind power reduces the grip on our goolies from both fuel and electricity suppliers in the wider market. There is no economy of scale in the wind market. We pay the pretty much same £/MW for a new turbine as anyone else. Yes big companies might be able to negotiate a slight reduction if buying in bulk but it wouldn't be significant. Edited September 13, 2023 by Happier diner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Runner Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) Just pay for a couple of new interconnectors. Don't be worried about the UK gov holding you to ransom if you take their power, FFS, if they wanted to do that, they could cut you off tomorrow with new tax avoidance laws. Get a cable or 2 buried across the sea ASAP and get clean energy from the mainland. I love the idea of wind turbines, especially at Druidale where they would not be seen but knowing Manx politics and how those that shout loudest get their own way, MUA are wasting time even thinking about this when I look at it properly. That Keiiry? woman in the south lives very near to where the turbines are proposed so that is not happening anytime soon. Edited September 13, 2023 by Blade Runner 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, Blade Runner said: Just pay for a couple of new interconnectors. Don't be worried about the UK gov holding you to ransom if you take their power, FFS, if they wanted to do that, they could cut you off tomorrow with new tax avoidance laws. Get a cable or 2 buried across the sea ASAP and get clean energy from the mainland. I love the idea of wind turbines, especially at Druidale where they would not be seen but knowing Manx politics and how those that shout loudest get their own way, MUA are wasting time even thinking about this when I look at it properly. That Keiiry? woman in the south lives very near to where the turbines are proposed so that is not happening anytime soon. Have you seen how much an interconnector costs. Suggest research before posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Runner Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Have you seen how much an interconnector costs. Suggest research before posting. I know about £250million But, it would be financed over 20-30 years and would avoid all the Nimby problems that you will always have on the rock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTail Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 28 minutes ago, Blade Runner said: I know about £250million But, it would be financed over 20-30 years and would avoid all the Nimby problems that you will always have on the rock So we would have to find £250m ????? Which sofa has this amount in it???? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Happier diner said: Have you seen how much an interconnector costs. Suggest research before posting. Already happening, regardless of wind turbines. We have already contributed towards the UKs green dream. Why should we pay twice? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 32 minutes ago, Cambon said: Already happening, regardless of wind turbines. We have already contributed towards the UKs green dream. Why should we pay twice? When and how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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