Happier diner Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 26 minutes ago, Two-lane said: The turbines generate electricity in the range of hundreds of volts, which is convert by a local transformer to the kV range. I assume this has to go back to the one of the power stations, Peel or Douglas, so that it can be fed into the grid. Presumably this will be by underground cable, because by pylon would create some opposition. I do not think that the wind turbine output can be simply fed into the local 240v sockets. I do not think it is that easy. No it isn't that easy, but neither is it particularly difficult. See my other post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 What happened to the "Pure, Clean, Natural Gas" adverts. They seem to have been eliminated from the Internet. Or maybe it is just a false memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 44 minutes ago, cissolt said: Hmm so you don't believe any additional infrastructure is required? How is the voltage regulated? The power HAS to go back to the power station. But there's obviously a large cost associated with that which we are not being told about. What is your obsession with the power stations.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 11 minutes ago, Happier diner said: I believe a new cable is required to get the power to castletown and then some new equipment is required to let it feed into the grid and feed all the south + back feeding into the East via the existing cable infrastructure My assumption was that the hv would need to go back to somewhere where it could be fed into the source of the grid power - with the necessary equipment for transformering down of the voltage and syncing with the grid. If the MUA have plans to do that elsewhere, that is good. Do you have a references to any MUA documents that discuss this? [And, as a not too serious comment, how come the South get all the cheap electricity?] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 19 minutes ago, Two-lane said: My assumption was that the hv would need to go back to somewhere where it could be fed into the source of the grid power - with the necessary equipment for transformering down of the voltage and syncing with the grid. If the MUA have plans to do that elsewhere, that is good. Do you have a references to any MUA documents that discuss this? [And, as a not too serious comment, how come the South get all the cheap electricity?] It won't be cheap! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english zloty Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 22 minutes ago, Two-lane said: My assumption was that the hv would need to go back to somewhere where it could be fed into the source of the grid power - with the necessary equipment for transformering down of the voltage and syncing with the grid. If the MUA have plans to do that elsewhere, that is good. Do you have a references to any MUA documents that discuss this? [And, as a not too serious comment, how come the South get all the cheap electricity?] Perhaps Peel Group will build it and coincidence the additional power is used for Peel Group cannabis farm 🤔😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Two-lane said: What happened to the "Pure, Clean, Natural Gas" adverts. They seem to have been eliminated from the Internet. Or maybe it is just a false memory. Along with the cheap bit from circa 2002 when they started converting appliances on the Island... Edited May 1 by Non-Believer Typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 39 minutes ago, Two-lane said: My assumption was that the hv would need to go back to somewhere where it could be fed into the source of the grid power - with the necessary equipment for transformering down of the voltage and syncing with the grid. If the MUA have plans to do that elsewhere, that is good. Do you have a references to any MUA documents that discuss this? [And, as a not too serious comment, how come the South get all the cheap electricity?] I don't have any references, but I understand how electricity grids work to a certain extent. I know you can feed in at different points ( like the hydro at sulby does). You do have to synchronise the frequency but that's run of the mill technology these days. Everyone pays the same person unit regardless of the source so there will be no advantage of living in the south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Kenneth Noisewater Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 Electricity generated does not have to go back to the power stations, just to one of the primary substations, in this case castle town would be most likely. Wind turbine generators will generate at HV and fed into the HV distribution system https://www.manxutilities.im/about-us/our-assets/electricity/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 15 hours ago, Doctor Kenneth Noisewater said: Electricity generated does not have to go back to the power stations, just to one of the primary substations, in this case castle town would be most likely. Wind turbine generators will generate at HV and fed into the HV distribution system https://www.manxutilities.im/about-us/our-assets/electricity/ And does the substation require upgrades for this? The mea have previously stated that the grid can't support any more renewables from home users. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 17 minutes ago, cissolt said: The mea have previously stated that the grid can't support any more renewables from home users. Probably just because their bitter about individuals self generating rather than getting it from the MEA. In South Africa, Eskom the national and broken electricity firm has been actively blocking individuals and communities from setting up their own electricity generation options (both renewable or not) as they know they need the income to try and fix their own infrastructure or continue their historical embezzlement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 4 hours ago, cissolt said: And does the substation require upgrades for this? The mea have previously stated that the grid can't support any more renewables from home users. Can you reference this. I have never seen this said. I think you are talking nonsense. It always been a business decision, you can feed in but we will pay you peanuts for it as you are giving it us when we have no demand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 4 hours ago, cissolt said: And does the substation require upgrades for this? The mea have previously stated that the grid can't support any more renewables from home users. Yes. It's not a big job though. Just a feed in relay and synchronisation unit I reckon. Maybe £100k or something in that region. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 2 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Can you reference this. I have never seen this said. I think you are talking nonsense. It always been a business decision, you can feed in but we will pay you peanuts for it as you are giving it us when we have no demand. They are half right as you can only feed in a small amount less than 2kw I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 3 minutes ago, finlo said: They are half right as you can only feed in a small amount less than 2kw I think. Understood. Yes in a domestic situation there would be limits, but 2kw is still a good chunk of power. That's quite a few solar panels. Realistically any more would be a commercial operation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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