The Phantom Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 19 minutes ago, Amadeus said: So the entire 72 hectare plantation is coming down? It's a plantation. That's what it's there for. Harvesting. Assuming they will actually do something with the wood. Most of the plantations are a biodiversity desert. We're not talking about ancient woodlands here. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago On 10/22/2024 at 5:38 PM, Happier diner said: I think ultimately it should end up in cheaper electricity. That will be when the capital cost is paid back. I have spent a lot of time in Europe this year. Wind farms everywhere. Holland, Belgium, Germany, France, Spain, Portugal, Italy, canaries. Not it's possible that all these places have got it wrong and it's not economically viable, but I doubt it. They have them because they are self financing as well as green. They are not perfect but given the isle of man is windier than all those places, surely it makes economic sense for us to have them too. Most european windfarms are privately funded and owned, as they are in the uk. Huge subsidies are paid to these companies by the various governments. But, the governments have not paid for them and the governments don’t own them. That is the difference. Earystane is a poor choice for location for many reasons. A small number of high output turbines is complete idiocy. One other thing, apparently, some of the land required for the site and its installation is privately owned and not available for compulsory purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Cambon said: Most european windfarms are privately funded and owned, as they are in the uk. Huge subsidies are paid to these companies by the various governments. But, the governments have not paid for them and the governments don’t own them. That is the difference. Earystane is a poor choice for location for many reasons. A small number of high output turbines is complete idiocy. One other thing, apparently, some of the land required for the site and its installation is privately owned and not available for compulsory purchase. China are even now hopping on the bandwagon. Although as it's China, it has to be massive and they only last month commissioned the worlds biggest - 185m at the hub! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b4mbi Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 25 minutes ago, GreyWolf said: I certainly hope not but they’ll be a token planting of trees elsewhere that’ll all die of when most people forget the reason for planting. sounds familiar.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercenary Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 47 minutes ago, The Phantom said: China are even now hopping on the bandwagon. Although as it's China, it has to be massive and they only last month commissioned the worlds biggest - 185m at the hub! China have been the major player in the wind turbine industry for a long time, although mostly onshore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auntie Depressant Posted 58 minutes ago Share Posted 58 minutes ago 52 minutes ago, b4mbi said: sounds familiar.... Howard’s mighty oak. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted 40 minutes ago Share Posted 40 minutes ago 1 hour ago, GreyWolf said: I certainly hope not but they’ll be a token planting of trees elsewhere that’ll all die of when most people forget the reason for planting. And won't have done a proper soil test before planting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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