De nada Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, Passing Time said: You’re never likely to get them in a hurry Unless they can bring their guns. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Derek Flint said: One of my lectures is on armed policing command failures. There are still people ill suited and poorly equipped to lead complex operations. Is that relevant to Cressida Dick - wrt Jean Charles de Menezes ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Passing Time said: You’re never likely to get them in a hurry just say you can smell weed and they'll be there before you've hung up. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 12 hours ago, Two-lane said: Is that relevant to Cressida Dick - wrt Jean Charles de Menezes ? That wasn't a command failure believe it or not. Dick was exonerated of any personal fault. The one I focus on mainly is the Anthony Grainger Op Shire one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/majority-of-crimes-last-year-occurred-in-douglas-and-onchan/ One whole crime in Bride last year. I'd love to know what it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 1 minute ago, The Phantom said: https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/majority-of-crimes-last-year-occurred-in-douglas-and-onchan/ One whole crime in Bride last year. I'd love to know what it was. "Majority of crimes last year occurred in douglas and onchan"...... That really is a "no shit sherlock" statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/douglas-man-admits-making-threatening-calls-to-police-headquarters/ Proportionate response? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 On 8/27/2023 at 8:12 AM, Derek Flint said: That wasn't a command failure believe it or not. Dick was exonerated of any personal fault. I think it goes without saying that there was no personal fault, as with any stuff that goes on in any organisation. It was on her watch. If the head of an organzation is unable to enforce standards then they are at fault. They are not doing the job they should be doing and can't command respect. That is the problem with promoting box tickers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizo Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Eh!!!! 2725 crimes recorded and 17% were the Victoria south beat but then goes on to say 1420 crimes were recorded in the Victoria south? I’d say about 49% using quick maths. someone can’t do maths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Gizo said: Eh!!!! 2725 crimes recorded and 17% were the Victoria south beat but then goes on to say 1420 crimes were recorded in the Victoria south? I’d say about 49% using quick maths. someone can’t do maths. It doesn't say that though. It says "Elsewhere the stats show that police were called to the Victoria South beat a total of 1,420 times". But every time the police are "deployed" somewhere, it doesn't mean a crime was recorded, there were only 459 crimes recorded in Victoria South from those 1420 incidents. There were 11,335 such call outs in total, so Victoria South was responsible for 12.5% of them. All the information comes from the reply to Paul Craine's question here: https://www.tynwald.org.im/spfile?file=/business/BusinessHansardIndex2126/W-202301-0765.pdf A map showing the areas used is in the Chief Constable's Report: As you can see Victoria South is all of Lower Douglas and the Proms and South Quay etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizo Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 So they were using two different variables interchangeably in the article without any explanation. Seems about right 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b4mbi Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 2 hours ago, The Phantom said: https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/majority-of-crimes-last-year-occurred-in-douglas-and-onchan/ One whole crime in Bride last year. I'd love to know what it was. Someone went there without a passport? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 34 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: It doesn't say that though. It says "Elsewhere the stats show that police were called to the Victoria South beat a total of 1,420 times". But every time the police are "deployed" somewhere, it doesn't mean a crime was recorded, there were only 459 crimes recorded in Victoria South from those 1420 incidents. There were 11,335 such call outs in total, so Victoria South was responsible for 12.5% of them. All the information comes from the reply to Paul Craine's question here: https://www.tynwald.org.im/spfile?file=/business/BusinessHansardIndex2126/W-202301-0765.pdf A map showing the areas used is in the Chief Constable's Report: As you can see Victoria South is all of Lower Douglas and the Proms and South Quay etc. Frankly the designated 'Hills' region of southern Douglas sound a bit sinister to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Phantom said: Frankly the designated 'Hills' region of southern Douglas sound a bit sinister to me. 'Asthehills' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 On 9/1/2023 at 1:31 PM, Barlow said: I think it goes without saying that there was no personal fault, as with any stuff that goes on in any organisation. It was on her watch. If the head of an organzation is unable to enforce standards then they are at fault. They are not doing the job they should be doing and can't command respect. That is the problem with promoting box tickers She wasn't the Head of the organisation. She was the strategic firearms commander. You need to understand how command decisions are made. Read APP Armed Policing and specifically the section on the National Decision Model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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