Happier diner Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, alpha-acid said: They don't know what they are using they lost all the beer recipes 2 years ago Did you accidently have then shredded? I only know because I saw the bags if hops with my own eyes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, alpha-acid said: They don't know what they are using they lost all the beer recipes 2 years ago They know were you live 🤪 Not 'bitter' though are you? Edited October 13, 2023 by Kopek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwhite Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 27 minutes ago, Happier diner said: We will definitely go back because I liked it. However my missus is more likely to be up for going back if; It's warm and There is some better wine. I hope my comments are constructive. I absolutely think they are and well presented. I mentioned the door comment and, ahead of that, it had been closed all night. Not the first time I guess they've heard it and think they realised it themselves. Seems wine is being worked on so guess it will be a work in progress. All fair comments and definitely constructive. They said to thank you for coming in. 8 minutes ago, Kopek said: They know were you live 🤪 Not 'bitter' though are you? Tends to be more 'pale ale' these days 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Lilly said: What is a ' Cortado' Kopek I don't know what a Cortado Kopek is, probably a very cheap coffee??? As above, a small strong coffee with just a little milk. Like a small Macchiato . In the Airport cafe a Macchiato comes in a big mug! More like a Latte? Not all the staff know how to make one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, jackwhite said: Tends to be more 'pale ale' these days 😉 He'll be pale when HnBs mafia track him down!!! Regards wine in a Bar, I don't think the expectation is high? Most Pubs have very 'ordinaire' so not hard to improve on? I got my daytime wines retail, Jamelles Rousanne from the Co op, a Spanish red from Tesco, forget its name but easy drinking, they were wines that I selected by taste rather than booze suppliers standard ordinaries, sales were not large so I didn't need to worry about mark up. A low profit service to customers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilly Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 35 minutes ago, Kopek said: I don't know what a Cortado Kopek is, probably a very cheap coffee??? 😄, probably not cheap. Thank you 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) A Kopek is a very low value Russian coin!!! I cant explain further, I'd have to change half my passwords!!! Edited October 13, 2023 by Kopek 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 In amongst all this there has to be a sense of perspective. To me a beer with ABV of 11% is not really a beer. The taste is wiped out. Yes I enjoy a strong beer say up to 5 or 6%, whilst also being able to appreciate a beer of lesser ABV. It’s a bit like curry eaters bragging that they like a curry hotter than vindaloo (Chal or something like that if I recall). More a test of endurance than appreciation. I am a madras man myself. Anyway, has anybody noticed that the red wine ABV has crept up from something like 12% to nearer 12.5 to 14 .5 % ABV over the last say 5 to 7 years. White wine also following this trend. Does make for a nicer glass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwhite Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: In amongst all this there has to be a sense of perspective. To me a beer with ABV of 11% is not really a beer. The taste is wiped out. Yes I enjoy a strong beer say up to 5 or 6%, whilst also being able to appreciate a beer of lesser ABV. It’s a bit like curry eaters bragging that they like a curry hotter than vindaloo (Chal or something like that if I recall). More a test of endurance than appreciation. I am a madras man myself. Anyway, has anybody noticed that the red wine ABV has crept up from something like 12% to nearer 12.5 to 14 .5 % ABV over the last say 5 to 7 years. White wine also following this trend. Does make for a nicer glass Doesn't work like that with beer The only thing I can think of that might follow the example you give is a triple IPA. Because there are so many hops in it they just becomes pretty extreme, sweet usually. With the likes of the imperial stouts that have been talked about here, they are usually well done (well I only trust certain breweries with them who do them extremely well) so the taste definitely is not wiped out. With craft beer, 5 to 6% is usually the starting point. Hops do have a couple below 5% now for example, looking at their menu (well squinting at the menu at this time!), but of the 8 they have on tap, 6 of them are over 6.5%. All extremely good tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 If yopu're a cheapskate, you can buy your girlfriend a small glass of a 14% and she'll still be, well, appreciative??? Just joking! True though a high alcohol beer is like half a bottle of wine, your going to feel drunk??? Some wines have always been hi alco, 13/14%, the better will not have their taste affected but a deliberately hi alco, Aussie?, can lose some of it's flavours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 minute ago, jackwhite said: Doesn't work like that with beer The only thing I can think of that might follow the example you give is a triple IPA. Because there are so many hops in it they just becomes pretty extreme, sweet usually. With the likes of the imperial stouts that have been talked about here, they are usually well done (well I only trust certain breweries with them who do them extremely well) so the taste definitely is not wiped out. With craft beer, 5 to 6% is usually the starting point. Hops do have a couple below 5% now for example, looking at their menu (well squinting at the menu at this time!), but of the 8 they have on tap, 6 of them are over 6.5%. All extremely good tbh. Each to their own I guess. Enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emesde Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Anyway, has anybody noticed that the red wine ABV has crept up from something like 12% to nearer 12.5 to 14 .5 % ABV over the last say 5 to 7 years. White wine also following this trend. Does make for a nicer glass Some of this has happened because of customer demands. Several years ago when German wines were first choice for many new wine drinkers wines were only around 8-10 % Gradually wines from warmer wine growing areas developed and warmer riper grapes means more sugar in the grapes and more sugar produces more alcohol. The increases over the recent years have been brought about by global warming hence warmer vineyards producing grapes with higher sugar levels = more alcohol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) Liebfraumilch and 'Matayus' Rose, those were the days!!! Actually ordered a Mateus a few years ago to check it out? It was pretty awful!!!! Edited October 13, 2023 by Kopek 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilly Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: In amongst all this there has to be a sense of perspective. To me a beer with ABV of 11% is not really a beer. The taste is wiped out. Yes I enjoy a strong beer say up to 5 or 6%, whilst also being able to appreciate a beer of lesser ABV. It’s a bit like curry eaters bragging that they like a curry hotter than vindaloo (Chal or something like that if I recall). More a test of endurance than appreciation. I am a madras man myself. Anyway, has anybody noticed that the red wine ABV has crept up from something like 12% to nearer 12.5 to 14 .5 % ABV over the last say 5 to 7 years. White wine also following this trend. Does make for a nicer glass I was wondering about the effects of the high alcohol content in the craft ales. I suppose it's meant to be consumed slowly with appreciation for the different qualities on offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Kopek said: Liebfraumilch and 'Matayus' Rose, those were the days!!! Yes indeed, myself and ex wife were happy to sit in with a litre of Leibfraulmich between us without it being even chilled. Glad to say I’ve become more sophisticated and graduated to Asti Spumanti 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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