Declan Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, John Wright said: Only one conclusion. Hopkin lying, again. She thrives on the maxim of “no publicity is bad publicity”, and will say anything to earn a living, now she isn’t the right wing media’s darling, gobby, troll. The whole thing has been a case study in Do Not Feed The Troll. Edited September 18, 2023 by Declan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bastard Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Cueey Lewis And The News said: That’s basically how libel works - you said something untrue if it is untrue you either withdraw the comment when requested to do so or you risk litigation. But I don’t see anyone threatening to sue anyone or asking for an apology here. All I can see is people defaulting to discrediting Hopkins as a liar because she has previously been sued for libel. That really does not make anything she might possibly say from that day forward untrue by default. The claims have been made so if people object so much it’s up to them to resort to the lawyers if they think they are baseless or otherwise seek an apology or other redress. Although as I said above I think it’s certainly something Douglas Council should properly investigate under the code of conduct as the claims of inappropriate behaviour have been made publicly in a mainstream news feature and attributed to known persons. Thing is, nobody here's discredited KH as a liar specifically because she's been sued for libel, or even because she's lied in the press repeatedly in the past and subsequently had to issue apologies and retractions. The core issue is around the specific claims she made, which are either potentially defamatory or are factually untrue. In the unlikely event it goes legal, it would be interesting. Would be very expensive, probably for the impoverished KH. DBC should investigate only when it has verifiable evidence that a code of conduct has been breached, not because some randoms say so on t'internet. Otherwise, it ends up spending public money chasing its tail like the long and ultimately pointless investigation into QE2 because Facebook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, Cueey Lewis And The News said: That’s basically how libel works - you said something untrue if it is untrue you either withdraw the comment when requested to do so or you risk litigation. But I don’t see anyone threatening to sue anyone or asking for an apology here. All I can see is people defaulting to discrediting Hopkins as a liar because she has previously been sued for libel. That really does not make anything she might possibly say from that day forward untrue by default. The claims have been made so if people object so much it’s up to them to resort to the lawyers if they think they are baseless or otherwise seek an apology or other redress. Although as I said above I think it’s certainly something Douglas Council should properly investigate under the code of conduct as the claims of inappropriate behaviour have been made publicly in a mainstream news feature and attributed to known persons. I know you're hard of reading, but the "grants" she alleges were threatened to be removed don't exist, and the Legion stated to the press that DBC didn't contact them. Yet you believe her. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cueey Lewis And The News Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, John Wright said: Not much point in suing Hopkins for libel, or slander, as she has form for not being able to pay any award or costs. Had to enter a CVA after her last outing. Douglas Corporation can’t be defamed, in law. The two councillors can, and could sue. Can’t see them affording it themselves, or getting crowd funding like Jack did. If they want to crowd fund it I’d happily drop the first £250 in. We can’t have all these allegations being made and people relying on claims that it’s not worth suing anyone if something libelous had been said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Declan said: The whole thing has been a case study in Do Not Feed The Troll. Which troll are you talking about? KH or @Cueey Lewis And The News? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cueey Lewis And The News Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Just now, manxman1980 said: Which troll are you talking about? KH or @Cueey Lewis And The News? Nobody is trolling anyone. Just going against the agreed narrative of this site on this topic because no matter how many times some people chooses to stick their finger in their ears and go la, la, la, it doesn’t change things. Might pop in to the Russell Brand thread to see if it’s wildly different to this because he hasn’t made accusations about a pair of absolute tits who are on Douglas Corpy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 I see Hopkins claims have made the BBC ... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, Cueey Lewis And The News said: Nobody is trolling anyone. Just going against the agreed narrative of this site on this topic because no matter how many times some people chooses to stick their finger in their ears and go la, la, la, it doesn’t change things. Might pop in to the Russell Brand thread to see if it’s wildly different to this because he hasn’t made accusations about a pair of absolute tits who are on Douglas Corpy. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipper99 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 38 minutes ago, Cueey Lewis And The News said: Nobody is trolling anyone. Just going against the agreed narrative of this site on this topic because no matter how many times some people chooses to stick their finger in their ears and go la, la, la, it doesn’t change things. Might pop in to the Russell Brand thread to see if it’s wildly different to this because he hasn’t made accusations about a pair of absolute tits who are on Douglas Corpy. You really are starting to sound like Port Soderick Herald/FANDL/Cue Ball/Brit/Offshoremanxman/Broadcasterman and dozens of other washed up has beens 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Someone should sue KH or the Legion woman???? Seriously? It's last weeks news, now what's this about Russel Brand!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 2 hours ago, quilp said: Jeez, don't show that to Brand, he'll be in there like a shot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Here’s a thing. I watched the Energy FM interview with Ms Hopkins and felt slightly sad. Par example. The sticky tissue paper thing in Devon’s mums spare room. I’d be willing to bet that’s a stock response she makes about any councilor or official who has any connection with a venue where her “show” is put on. I think she’s caught in a trap of her own making. She no doubt did not envisage this would be her life after appearing on The Apprentice. Appearing at small town venues having to be increasingly controversial to generate interest in herself , for a few hundred quid a time. In the latter part of the interview she declared how happy she was being able to be herself and how she was unaffected by all the hoo hah surrounding her. Well if you looked into her eyes, through to her soul, in the interview this was clearly not the case. She seems deeply troubled. Once she adopted this persona she has had to act it out to carve out some sort of living for herself. I’m not saying she is deserving of any sympathy though. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 You… you looked through to her soul? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Here’s a thing. I watched the Energy FM interview with Ms Hopkins and felt slightly sad. Par example. The sticky tissue paper thing in Devon’s mums spare room. I’d be willing to bet that’s a stock response she makes about any councilor or official who has any connection with a venue where her “show” is put on. I think she’s caught in a trap of her own making. She no doubt did not envisage this would be her life after appearing on The Apprentice. Appearing at small town venues having to be increasingly controversial to generate interest in herself , for a few hundred quid a time. In the latter part of the interview she declared how happy she was being able to be herself and how she was unaffected by all the hoo hah surrounding her. Well if you looked into her eyes, through to her soul, in the interview this was clearly not the case. She seems deeply troubled. Once she adopted this persona she has had to act it out to carve out some sort of living for herself. I’m not saying she is deserving of any sympathy though. Spot on. It's an act. The ghosts that I called... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: I think she’s caught in a trap of her own making. She no doubt did not envisage this would be her life after appearing on The Apprentice. Appearing at small town venues having to be increasingly controversial to generate interest in herself , for a few hundred quid a time. Well she could've avoided it all by just being an OK person. Could've had a long career in shite TV programmes that pay too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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