Cambon Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 19 minutes ago, loaf said: I would agree that it is very much about the money, in the sense that oil companies have lots of it to spend on disinformation about alternatives to petroleum. Aside from that, I'm not sure what you are objecting to. You can either believe that fossil fuels are a finite resource that is going to run out of at some point, or you don't. Your choice, but I think a clue is that we did stop making dinosaurs a while ago now. Fossil fuels are not running out any time soon. They have nothing to do with dinosaurs. The vast majority of the reserves have not been tapped into…yet! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 45 minutes ago, John Wright said: The UK has only one coal fire powered electric plant. Ratcliffe on Soare. And it is scheduled to close down before September 2024. Believe it when I see it. Still used almost daily. Being used right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiVibes Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 We all want a better future with clean air and low carbon dioxide, so taking all drivers over 65 of the road will solve that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 36 minutes ago, loaf said: but I think a clue is that we did stop making dinosaurs a while ago now. we're still making trees though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 1 hour ago, John Wright said: The UK has only one coal fire powered electric plant. Ratcliffe on Soare. And it is scheduled to close down before September 2024. 3000 of them in China and approving something like 2 new ones a week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxman1234 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 25 minutes ago, The Phantom said: 3000 of them in China and approving something like 2 new ones a week. Yet IOM GOV thinks it’s going to change the world with their policies 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, Manxman1234 said: Yet IOM GOV thinks it’s going to change the world with their policies Absolute madness led by Daphne at great expense!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_manx Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 One of my cars is an EV.. More than any ecological Issues I am more concerned about being held hostage by fossil fuel producing countries.. UK has the capability of being self sufficient if we can reduce the dependence on fossil fuels While I agree that China is burning a load of coal they are also aggressively pushing EV technology to reduce oil usage.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_manx Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Banker said: Absolute madness led by Daphne at great expense!! Agree...while I drive an EV I don't think there should be any subsidy etc Market forces should dictate it At least the IOM never had a subsidy for EV cars ( UK did ) . Vehicle tax is also something that needs to go up to around the £160 mark compared to the current £65 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 23 minutes ago, mad_manx said: Agree...while I drive an EV I don't think there should be any subsidy etc Market forces should dictate it At least the IOM never had a subsidy for EV cars ( UK did ) . Vehicle tax is also something that needs to go up to around the £160 mark compared to the current £65 . How about we make government more efficient rather than increase tax for any cars? People pay enough as it is, EV and ICE. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Amadeus said: How about we make government more efficient rather than increase tax for any cars? People pay enough as it is, EV and ICE. EVs don’t pay a fair share & use the roads just as much so should go up , user pays ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Banker said: EVs don’t pay a fair share & use the roads just as much so should go up , user pays ! EV users currently subsidise the infrastructure and take up of these vehicles over here. We pay more than our fair share. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 1 hour ago, HiVibes said: We all want a better future with clean air and low carbon dioxide, so taking all drivers over 65 of the road will solve that. I think taking all people who cannot write proper English OFF the road would be a better idea! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forestboy Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 1 hour ago, HiVibes said: We all want a better future with clean air and low carbon dioxide, so taking all drivers over 65 of the road will solve that. Sod off 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiVibes Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 14 minutes ago, Cambon said: I think taking all people who cannot write proper English OFF the road would be a better idea! Nah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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