Anthony Ingham Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 3 minutes ago, 2112 said: More nonsense from IOMGs DoI this time it’s Minister Crookall justifying the DoIs decisions to purchase diesel vehicles. From the NPM - The Department of Infrastructure says it hasn't been buying electric vehicles for its fleet because they're too expensive and there's a lack of charging points. In a written Tynwald question, the minister revealed 135 non-electric vehicles had been bought since October 2022. Tim Crookall says most were ordered as diesel due to it being cheaper and there being no on-site or overnight charging points for them. 81 were ordered as diesel due to no on site/overnight charging points being available at this time, where vehicles are parked when not in use. Six of these were petrol/diesel hybrids. 51 vehicles fall into the classification of Light Commercial, Heavy Goods or 4x4 where electric options are limited due to powering ancillary equipment on the vehicle (ie, hoist, pump), range capacities or the difference in fully laden weight restrictions. 9 blue light emergency response vehicles where primarily the time to recharge an electric vehicle could have an impact on response times. Personally it’s freedom of choice over what type of vehicle, people buy, petrol, diesel or electric. However, IOMG has been legislating, hectoring and lecturing islanders about climate change, net zero and biosphere, yet a government department can’t practice what it preaches. Not a good example to set to others. You think they should have got electric vehicles for DOI and blue light services? Wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 31 minutes ago, Happier diner said: I absolutely agree and understand. You really don't though do you? You've consistently stated that power is the limiting factor in how quickly a battery can be charged, you even went on to claim that we don't have the distribution infrastructure to provide the necessary power for these public charging points. You are wrong at every stage. The limiting factor in how quickly a battery can be charged is how quickly the battery can accept the required amount of charge, that is how quickly the chemical composition of the battery can be changed. This is dictated by battery technology - an area which has developed beyond recognition in the last 20 years and continues to develop. Available power to the changing point is a factor, but in terms of the public charging points we have been discussing it has not been the limiting factor so far and probably won't be for some time to come. You really need to get your head around the power available and charging speed are two distinct things, it really isn't all about power. I think WTF analogy is a good one, about 60W and 100W bulbs on a 6amp lighting circuit. - to extend that further think LED bulbs, we no all have 4W or 7W bulbs giving out more light on the same 6A circuit. Power is not the limiting factor in lighting, lighting technology is, it's exactly the same with battery charging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 47 minutes ago, Happier diner said: All I have ever said is the chargers cannot make power that isnt there. Its will always be true. Nobody has ever claimed that they would need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 16 minutes ago, Gladys said: A volt face? It's shocking! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 29 minutes ago, Gladys said: A volt face? Plagiarism! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 37 minutes ago, A fool and his money..... said: It's shocking! Yes, there has been AMPle opportunity to explain this, but we just get a battery of posts debating the ARCane points regarding charging, both positive and negative. I do not know WATT to think of it all. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 27 minutes ago, Jarndyce said: Plagiarism! Sorry, did I nick(el) the pun? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 1 hour ago, Gladys said: Yes, there has been AMPle opportunity to explain this, but we just get a battery of posts debating the ARCane points regarding charging, both positive and negative. I do not know WATT to think of it all. The views are polarised. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 1 hour ago, Gladys said: Yes, there has been AMPle opportunity to explain this, but we just get a battery of posts debating the ARCane points regarding charging, both positive and negative. I do not know WATT to think of it all. I think it's best if you remain neutral. It's been a LIVEly debate, although it seems to have gone a bit flat lately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Lamb Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Can someone pull the plug on this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 6 minutes ago, Harry Lamb said: Can someone pull the plug on this? I dont have the power. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 1 minute ago, Happier diner said: I dont have the power. And if crazy Dave doesn't start agreeing soon , I am going to socket to him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 55 minutes ago, Happier diner said: And if crazy Dave doesn't start agreeing soon , I am going to socket to him. I feel completely isolated. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 21 minutes ago, Happier diner said: I feel completely isolated. Guilty as charged. Perhaps you should give learning the first thing about battery technology a schottky so we don't think your intellectual capacity is terminal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 37 minutes ago, A fool and his money..... said: Guilty as charged. Perhaps you should give learning the first thing about battery technology a schottky so we don't think your intellectual capacity is terminal. You can fuck off. You dont know your arse from your elbow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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