The Listening Ear Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 So a crew member today has let me know that they are another step nearer industrial action. They have been told that the shoreside management have issued a consultation period starting 23/9/23 to basically change all the crews T&C’s from 01/01/2024. It’s been made quite clear that a fire and rehire situation will occur if they don’t agree to the new T&C’s. Effectively doing a “P&O” to the crews that have served the island with its lifeline sailings! They were the best thing since sliced bread during the pandemic!! The unions are in talks with Manx Industrial Relations and legal teams regarding the legalities of them doing this. I do remember speaking to crew when the P&O situation arose as the IOMSPCo were already wanting a change to T&C’s and Mr. Thomson said there would never be a situation like that on island. How times change Mr MD! Now you are threatening the exact same action. Never mind a shake up of the fleet I suggest a shake up of the shoreside management and the huge board of directors, the only decent one is now no longer there. Time for a vote of no confidence? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cueey Lewis And The News Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 That would be a fairly stupid tactic in the current labour market. P&O did it at the end of lockdown when there was a huge amount of employment insecurity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 What does your friend say they are trying to change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Listening Ear Posted September 26, 2023 Author Share Posted September 26, 2023 Just now, Cueey Lewis And The News said: That would be a fairly stupid tactic in the current labour market. P&O did it at the end of lockdown when there was a huge amount of employment insecurity. Well talking to the crews it’s happening, stupid I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Listening Ear Posted September 26, 2023 Author Share Posted September 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Whiskey said: What does your friend say they are trying to change? Manx based crew having to Live aboard, 2 weeks on plus more 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newaccount Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 It's noticeable that there's already alot of new faces on board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian rush Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 It’s an IMO requirement to crew a vessel in harbour and 14 days on/off is pretty standard. That seems to be the sticking point and from employer side it’s probably a ball ache to roster anything shorter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newaccount Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, ian rush said: It’s an IMO requirement to crew a vessel in harbour and 14 days on/off is pretty standard. That seems to be the sticking point and from employer side it’s probably a ball ache to roster anything shorter. A ball ache they coped ok with for a couple of hundred years until now 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDave Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, newaccount said: A ball ache they coped ok with for a couple of hundred years until now Rules and regs change. Its 2023 now, not 1912 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 1 hour ago, The Listening Ear said: So a crew member today has let me know that they are another step nearer industrial action. They have been told that the shoreside management have issued a consultation period starting 23/9/23 to basically change all the crews T&C’s from 01/01/2024. It’s been made quite clear that a fire and rehire situation will occur if they don’t agree to the new T&C’s. Effectively doing a “P&O” to the crews that have served the island with its lifeline sailings! They were the best thing since sliced bread during the pandemic!! The unions are in talks with Manx Industrial Relations and legal teams regarding the legalities of them doing this. I do remember speaking to crew when the P&O situation arose as the IOMSPCo were already wanting a change to T&C’s and Mr. Thomson said there would never be a situation like that on island. How times change Mr MD! Now you are threatening the exact same action. Never mind a shake up of the fleet I suggest a shake up of the shoreside management and the huge board of directors, the only decent one is now no longer there. Time for a vote of no confidence? Work for the SP do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Listening Ear Posted September 26, 2023 Author Share Posted September 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, ian rush said: It’s an IMO requirement to crew a vessel in harbour and 14 days on/off is pretty standard. That seems to be the sticking point and from employer side it’s probably a ball ache to roster anything shorter. The Ben crew have been doing week on week off since she arrived so shouldn’t be a ball ache. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Listening Ear Posted September 26, 2023 Author Share Posted September 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Passing Time said: Work for the SP do you? No I don’t, like I said a crew member told me about it all today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Just now, The Listening Ear said: No I don’t, like I said a crew member told me about it all today. of course he did... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Listening Ear Posted September 26, 2023 Author Share Posted September 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, Passing Time said: of course he did... Actually they did. I’d have said otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebushy Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Why would anyone doubt it, he is the listening ear after all..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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