Banker Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 Steam packet statement, seems 70% of staff have accepted we terms, it always used to be live on & it will make company more flexible. Seems reasonable from company plus staff are getting more money & holidays https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/steam-packet-we-will-not-agree-preferential-terms-for-nautilus-members/?fbclid=IwAR0JDWJ3eakSZ7ssz8YSFeLDi4Vnw1QMClkEd6UIN5aVZurk4niluS_02gI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Banker said: Steam packet statement, seems 70% of staff have accepted we terms, it always used to be live on & it will make company more flexible. Seems reasonable from company plus staff are getting more money & holidays https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/steam-packet-we-will-not-agree-preferential-terms-for-nautilus-members/?fbclid=IwAR0JDWJ3eakSZ7ssz8YSFeLDi4Vnw1QMClkEd6UIN5aVZurk4niluS_02gI Seems very reasonable indeed on the face of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 Quote "This includes the choice of week on/week off, or two weeks on/two weeks off working rotations, additional days leave and the additional bonus mentioned by Nautilus." So there's a choice. One week or two weeks on/off. Seems reasonable to me and probably better than most others working in the industry. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Rushen Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 Do you get free meals on board? Do you pay tax on this benefit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 It seems that the SPC have riled the RMT, in their dispute with staff, over working practices on the Manxman. The RMT have said that they haven’t accepted changes to terms and conditions, whist the SPC are saying they have signed up. It seems like the Steam Packet and the Treasury are trying to play both unions off each. If they aren’t careful something will go badly wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 On 9/29/2023 at 2:57 PM, Major Rushen said: Do you get free meals on board? Do you pay tax on this benefit? They usually get free meals, as there is a dedicated chef for the crew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Listening Ear Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 26 minutes ago, 2112 said: It seems that the SPC have riled the RMT, in their dispute with staff, over working practices on the Manxman. The RMT have said that they haven’t accepted changes to terms and conditions, whist the SPC are saying they have signed up. It seems like the Steam Packet and the Treasury are trying to play both unions off each. If they aren’t careful something will go badly wrong. Well someone is telling porky pies and it’s not the RMT as nobody has signed any agreement or any new contracts… even those already on the Manxman!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Listening Ear said: Well someone is telling porky pies and it’s not the RMT as nobody has signed any agreement or any new contracts… even those already on the Manxman!!! Perhaps IOMG/Treasury are either naive, stupid or think they and the SPC are being clever. I don’t want any industrial action, disruption and as a member of the travelling public who uses IOMSPC both on Mannanan and the Ben, I look forward to sailing on the Manxman. Why oh why could this have not been settled, or comprised agreements? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Listening Ear Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, 2112 said: Perhaps IOMG/Treasury are either naive, stupid or think they and the SPC are being clever. I don’t want any industrial action, disruption and as a member of the travelling public who uses IOMSPC both on Mannanan and the Ben, I look forward to sailing on the Manxman. Why oh why could this have not been settled, or comprised agreements? It could have been settled 2 years ago but the SPCO have been so pigheaded and designed, built and paid for a ship that they were insistent was live aboard for all. You’d think they’d have got all this sorted before actually ordering the ship! Dictatorship at its best.. you’ll do what we want or be fired. They had the opportunity to change this and have it all sorted before the keel was laid as crews voted on what they wanted and Manx crew was live ashore. Still the belligerent management go ahead and do what suits them seeing as live aboard doesn’t affect them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 (edited) 58 minutes ago, The Listening Ear said: It could have been settled 2 years ago but the SPCO have been so pigheaded and designed, built and paid for a ship that they were insistent was live aboard for all. You’d think they’d have got all this sorted before actually ordering the ship! Dictatorship at its best.. you’ll do what we want or be fired. They had the opportunity to change this and have it all sorted before the keel was laid as crews voted on what they wanted and Manx crew was live ashore. Still the belligerent management go ahead and do what suits them seeing as live aboard doesn’t affect them. So how does all of this (P&O excepted) fit with the rest of the Irish Sea ferry operators? ETA: Stenaline is 14 on/14 off & 13 hour shifts. I have yet to find SeaTruck details but I imagine they'll be the same. Edited October 2, 2023 by Andy Onchan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: So how does all of this (P&O excepted) fit with the rest of the Irish Sea ferry operators? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Listening Ear Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 5 hours ago, Andy Onchan said: So how does all of this (P&O excepted) fit with the rest of the Irish Sea ferry operators? ETA: Stenaline is 14 on/14 off & 13 hour shifts. I have yet to find SeaTruck details but I imagine they'll be the same. The SPCO want the crews to do split shifts (watches) whilst on board so wouldn’t be like stena doing 13hr shifts and 11 rest hours. It would be broken rest at best. Plus the islands route to Heysham and back is quite unique and not as long as other ferry operators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 32 minutes ago, The Listening Ear said: The SPCO want the crews to do split shifts (watches) whilst on board so wouldn’t be like stena doing 13hr shifts and 11 rest hours. It would be broken rest at best. Plus the islands route to Heysham and back is quite unique and not as long as other ferry operators. And still you claim not to work for the IOMSPC…😂😂😂 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 1 hour ago, The Listening Ear said: The SPCO want the crews to do split shifts (watches) whilst on board so wouldn’t be like stena doing 13hr shifts and 11 rest hours. It would be broken rest at best. Plus the islands route to Heysham and back is quite unique and not as long as other ferry operators. Do they not have a point as far as fewer sailings lost to cancellations is concerned? That would be something worth getting an agreement for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Listening Ear Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 4 hours ago, Passing Time said: And still you claim not to work for the IOMSPC…😂😂😂 And still I tell you no I don’t. I wouldn’t want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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