Roger Mexico Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 36 minutes ago, Roxanne said: 52 minutes ago, Derek Flint said: But the job have been magnanimous and apologised rather than doubled down. I'm not on social media but let me guess how it went [...] And you guessed correctly. Gef's piece on the kerfuffle contains screen shots of the now-deleted posts and includes the information that the RPU reacted to criticism of their initial response by adding: ‘If you dont like it thats your prerogative, maybe unfollow our page.’ Which gives the impression they see social media as about stoking their egos rather than informing as many members of the public as possible. They also tagged the initial post with #DarwinAward, which is not just callous but nonsensical as that would imply that the girls were in danger. Rather like certain posters on MF, they seem to regard communication as being about asserting the superiority to everyone else rather than letting people know things. Though those on MF can at least claim that their not being paid to help people when doing this. And while we're on the subject I'd go with a Facebook avatar that was a bit friendlier and less Robocop-y: The main point to be made is different though. Emergency services shouldn't be discouraging people from dialling 999. Better nine calls that don't really need the emergency service, than one not made when it was, for fear of being criticised. In practice 999 callers already vet calls to make sure that the service is required and the right service(s) requested. Those seriously abusing the 999 system are prosecuted. But no one should be put off 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the shred Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 The girls were frightened phone contact to their parents wasn’t working they asked the police for help and what did they get public ridicule on Facebook. Shame on you the police no wonder you have lost a lot of public respect over the last few years the condescending way you speak to people on your Facebook is bad enough but to deny people in trouble assistance that is disgusting. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Herberts 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hmmmm Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 The post raises a variety of issues, in years gone by such communication would doubtless be controlled by officers in charge - perhaps the station sgt or others of rank. The mantra of the constabluary was often stated as 'keeping people safe' - this clearly flies in the face of one of the police's core functions, whatever the officers assessment it is the belief of the calling party that needs factoring in. Having said that the police, along with many other organisations, encouraged delegation and empowerment to all their staff whereby individual officers populate their social media outlets which of course works both ways in terms of poor supervision, and therein lies the the potential problem. Empowerment is a difficult area and officers may become risk averse, but this has been brewing for a while with the police content in tweets/facebook etc. Under the previous regime doubtless 'lessons would be learnt' if there was any comment. I sense the new regime may have a different approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 51 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: They also tagged the initial post with #DarwinAward, which is not just callous but nonsensical as that would imply that the girls were in danger. I also think the intention is that Darwin Awards are given posthumously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 I wasn't sure what to make of it when I first read it. But, you've got two 17 year old kids, who won't have much experience on the road, trying to get home safely in what is godawful weather. Probably the worst weather they've driven in. They've made a wrong turn, then made the sensible decision of stopping as the conditions didn't feel safe, and realised that even then, they were concerned for what was happening. Regardless of whether they were actually about to blow away, it would've felt pretty intimidating up there, especially when you weren't expecting it. They call 999 because they're concerned for their safety, and they can't reach anyone else. Then they get told they're not in any bother and to walk home, only to be taken the piss out of later. Not great all round really. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 39 minutes ago, The Phantom said: I also think the intention is that Darwin Awards are given posthumously. You can get one for taking yourself out of the gene pool too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the shred Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 The lesser spotted Chief Constable is either very shy or is operating off Island his silence on all matters is deafening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 There are some very sensible, rational and compassionate police officers, unfortunately there are some right self important bellends too! These are the ones who colour our opinions unfortunately. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chie Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Is that really the statement of the girls themselves? Starts of as "we are two 17 year old girls" and then towards the end "anyone who has kids would understand". Reads more like the parents of the girls writing the statement on their behalf. Nothing against that btw, just an observation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted September 28, 2023 Author Share Posted September 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chie said: Is that really the statement of the girls themselves? Starts of as "we are two 17 year old girls" and then towards the end "anyone who has kids would understand". Reads more like the parents of the girls writing the statement on their behalf. Nothing against that btw, just an observation. They're probably aware that Facebook is mostly populated with boomers so they'll be talking mostly to parents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majkul Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Max Power said: There are some very sensible, rational and compassionate police officers, unfortunately there are some right self important bellends too! These are the ones who colour our opinions unfortunately. I have a lot of respect for most police, mainly those that do their job wonderfully (there are a lot of them), without any fanfare. Like with every other walk of life, respect has to be earned. It takes a bit longer to earn it, whereas it is very quick to lose it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Colombe Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: I'd go with a Facebook avatar that was a bit friendlier and less Robocop-y: Those teenage girls are a disease. He's the cure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 And people wonder why sexual assault victims don't report it immediately. 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Bad form...someone or sometwo should be facing an enquiry. Something worse could happen next time. Lack of communications, misunderstandings and complacency are the cause of most tragedies. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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