Frances Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 that set back courtyard can be seen in the 1867 O/S 1:500 plan the entrance to Guttery Gable (originally the side wall of Paul Kelly's herring house hence the name) can be seen 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 1 minute ago, Frances said: that set back courtyard can be seen in the 1867 O/S 1:500 plan the entrance to Guttery Gable (originally the side wall of Paul Kelly's herring house hence the name) can be seen Thanks for that, always thought the name came from overhanging gutters, not fish guts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 6 minutes ago, John Wright said: Yes. They’re keeping them and the M&S franchise. Is the M&S here a franchise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 No 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 (edited) Its good to see Robinson's on Cooil road is now heaving obviously through lack of choice elsewhere. Edited May 7 by finlo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 1 minute ago, finlo said: Its good to see Robinson's on Coil road is now heaving obviously through lack of choice elsewhere. What? At this time of night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollag Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 14 hours ago, Gladys said: Thanks for that, always thought the name came from overhanging gutters, not fish guts. Just for balance, the Guttery was more likely the reference to the Gutteries,---abattoirs in the area, It links from Cattle Market st to Howard slip. There were at least 3 tannerys in the close area, the last being Fayles yard on Well rd hill. Mostly Herring processing was done close by the harbours, as in Peel, in Douglas the Herring houses were on South Quay, It seems daft to ship the fish from the harbour, by horse cart, all the way to Market St for processing. In later years the Cattle market was behind the Saddle pub, butchers would buy and employ drovers to drive the beasts to Market st for slaughter, the hides to the tannerys. Ths Drovers would retire to the Victoria Tavern in Drumgold st, tying their droving dogs outside, hence "Dogs Home" this is but one tale told with bellys to the bar. 6 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 11 minutes ago, mollag said: Just for balance, the Guttery was more likely the reference to the Gutteries,---abattoirs in the area, It links from Cattle Market st to Howard slip. There were at least 3 tannerys in the close area, the last being Fayles yard on Well rd hill. Mostly Herring processing was done close by the harbours, as in Peel, in Douglas the Herring houses were on South Quay, It seems daft to ship the fish from the harbour, by horse cart, all the way to Market St for processing. In later years the Cattle market was behind the Saddle pub, butchers would buy and employ drovers to drive the beasts to Market st for slaughter, the hides to the tannerys. Ths Drovers would retire to the Victoria Tavern in Drumgold st, tying their droving dogs outside, hence "Dogs Home" this is but one tale told with bellys to the bar. Every day's a school day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 (edited) 1 hour ago, mollag said: Just for balance, the Guttery was more likely the reference to the Gutteries,---abattoirs in the area, It links from Cattle Market st to Howard slip. There were at least 3 tannerys in the close area, the last being Fayles yard on Well rd hill. Mostly Herring processing was done close by the harbours, as in Peel, in Douglas the Herring houses were on South Quay, It seems daft to ship the fish from the harbour, by horse cart, all the way to Market St for processing. In later years the Cattle market was behind the Saddle pub, butchers would buy and employ drovers to drive the beasts to Market st for slaughter, the hides to the tannerys. Ths Drovers would retire to the Victoria Tavern in Drumgold st, tying their droving dogs outside, hence "Dogs Home" this is but one tale told with bellys to the bar. Fabulous history, thank you. Often wondered where the name for the Dogs Home came from - had assumed the dogs was really a reference to the reprobates who frequented it! Edited May 8 by Gladys 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollag Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 1 hour ago, Gladys said: Fabulous history, thank you. Often wondered where the name for the Dogs Home came from - had assumed the dogs was really a reference to the reprobates who frequented it! At the junction of Drumgold/Nelson/Market st was another linked Pub, The Shepherd Inn, roughly where the Premier Inn is now, as it's a flock of sheep, surely Sheepflockers would be a better description 🤫 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 very interesting info in the last few posts from mollag , cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Just to bring it back to Tesco, their 'finest' loose leaf earl grey tea is shite. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Went back in for the second pot just to be sure. It's absolute crap. How disappointing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollag Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 48 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Just to bring it back to Tesco, their 'finest' loose leaf earl grey tea is shite. Apols for the distract, I am ok with Tesco, dont miss Shoprite, but as withEarl Grey, Tesco English breakfast teabags went down the swanee a while back, the foil packs were removed and the bags left a orrible residue in the cup---Bad Tesco 😒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Just now, mollag said: Apols for the distract 😒 Oh I liked the distraction. I was pretty sure there was a Robinson's where WHSmith is, but I'd have been small so could have been wrong. I don't think it would have been there by the time I was old enough to go into town on my own. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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