Jarndyce Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 20 minutes ago, 2112 said: Especially if you haven’t got anything useful to say. Mind you, there are a few MHKs who are as quiet as the parochial church mouse. Can’t win on MF, can they? Speak or don’t speak, they’ll still be in the wrong… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 13 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: This is all just so 'on brand' for Josem, I assumed you'd made it up. You didn't: He never disappoints. "Peace pins"? Is the Island not currently at peace with Israel? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwhite Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, HeliX said: "Peace pins"? Is the Island not currently at peace with Israel? Not until they take Josem. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Manx Resident said: My comment was about the exercise of judgement by Ms Faragher in making reference to a particular statement and made no comment on the political or humanitarian issues. It is good to know you have half a brain. The statement she mentioned reflects a valid point of view - and possibly the root cause of the current blood baths in the area. I really don't see what judgement could have been exercised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manx Resident Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, A fool and his money..... said: The statement she mentioned reflects a valid point of view - and possibly the root cause of the current blood baths in the area. I really don't see what judgement could have been exercised. Sorry we might be at cross purposes here. If you reference back to my original comment it was about it being poor judgement to make the social media post referencing “…from the river to the sea…”. I have made no comment about the Manx Radio interview asking Government to make representations to call for a ceasefire, which I will agree is an understandable view given the continuing loss of life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Sorry, couldn't resist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS37SNYjg8w&ab_channel=BBCStudios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 11 minutes ago, Manx Resident said: Sorry we might be at cross purposes here. If you reference back to my original comment it was about it being poor judgement to make the social media post referencing “…from the river to the sea…”. I have made no comment about the Manx Radio interview asking Government to make representations to call for a ceasefire, which I will agree is an understandable view given the continuing loss of life. Whatever the case, and rights and wrongs, IOMG can achieve nothing. If they added their two pennerth, who will listen and take notice? It will be just a case of IOMG and CM Cannan trying to make an impression on the world stage, or dick wave to other countries. Pointless and Futile. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 48 minutes ago, Jarndyce said: Can’t win on MF, can they? Speak or don’t speak, they’ll still be in the wrong… Think it's more about what you say when you do speak. It would be great for Israel and Palestine to have a ceasefire surely that's just common sense, does it really need some insignificant "politician" on the Isle of Man to say it? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 When and if this conflict is over, I’m sure our politicos will be fighting to add their thoughts and opinions, and each will be out competing with other, as to demanding that IOMG house refugees, or demanding that the Treasury hands over a blank cheque. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: Think it's more about what you say when you do speak. It would be great for Israel and Palestine to have a ceasefire surely that's just common sense, does it really need some insignificant "politician" on the Isle of Man to say it? Why not? Everyone on MF is very quick to insist that they’re entitled to express their view, especially if anyone disagrees with them - but if any of the MHKs express a view on a global issue, or anything non-local really, they get slapped down pdq and put back in their box. Smacks of double standards.… 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, 2112 said: When and if this conflict is over, I’m sure our politicos will be fighting to add their thoughts and opinions, and each will be out competing with other… …except for Ann Corlett…🤐 Edited November 6, 2023 by Jarndyce Typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Did she ask about the amount of support for her personal view, If she has the mandate of the masses then of course ask Government to publicise our disdain and support for which ever side she so wishes. But my support is my own personal business and do not see fit to brow beat anyone else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Just now, Jarndyce said: Why not? Everyone on MF is very quick to insist that they’re entitled to express their view, especially if anyone disagrees with them - but if any of the MHKs express a view on a global issue, or anything non-local really, they get slapped down pdq and put back in their box. Smacks of double standards.… I don't think she thinks she, Alf or the collective IOMG can influence, but her point is to 'put our flag in the sand' and I agree. However, Alf has refused her request because we cannot interfere in the UK's international affairs. That's fine, but it still should not stop us from expressing a collective opinion, if it is the collective opinion of IOMG. She did say that Jersey officially objected to the Gulf War in the early 2000s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Dirty Buggane said: But my support is my own personal business and do not see fit to brow beat anyone else. Are you seriously suggesting that Ms Faragher’s original social media post which started this thread off was “brow-beating” CM Cannan? Do you think Ms Faragher routinely gets her way with Cannan by brow-beating him? Interesting…I’d no idea she had that level of influence. Edited November 6, 2023 by Jarndyce Clarity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jarndyce said: Why not? Everyone on MF is very quick to insist that they’re entitled to express their view, especially if anyone disagrees with them - but if any of the MHKs express a view on a global issue, or anything non-local really, they get slapped down pdq and put back in their box. Smacks of double standards.… It's the price to pay being in the public eye. Fine have an opinion but expect that opinion to be discussed. I personally would like the mhks to sort the many issues on this Island before getting involved in an issue that's been going on for god knows how many years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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