Steve_Christian Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Cueey Lewis And The News said: I agree I simply don’t get it. She represents Douglas East She lives in Laxey She seems to prefer global politics over supporting what she’s paid for. I don’t think it’s a choice. I think she can do both. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Or neither ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Harry Lamb said: Patronising misogynist? Alright, Silly and Stupid MHK. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 It's a shame that she can't be so vocal about the oppression of the Manx taxpayers by the IoMG and its CS. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 7 hours ago, Gladys said: What has happened to Claire Christian? She was never afraid to voice her opinion on things or try to hold her colleagues to account, mostly sensibly. Shame, because I had high hopes of her. She was photographed attending the British Irish Council Summit recently. Will probably get a COMIN role at some point, so any principles will go out of the window. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha-acid Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 hour ago, The Voice of Reason said: I have no particular support for either side in this Middle East conflict, terrible as it is. But that said, if say a member of the UK House of Commons who represents Tamworth North ( if there is such a constituency, I made it up) who lives in Birmingham pronounces upon this conflict either way, they are not ridiculed. Is it just because we are such a small jurisdiction that our politicians are not allowed the right to an opinion on such matters, that their UK counterparts are? Surely an elected representative in Tynwald is allowed their right to opine on such matters as much as a member of the UK House of Commons is.? Whether or not you agree with them. Or do we just laugh at ourselves for being so inconsequential? Yes that is OK but she is taking the Terrorist support line which is not OK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Non-Believer said: It's a shame that she can't be so vocal about the oppression of the Manx taxpayers by the IoMG and its CS. The same could be applied to Sarah Maltby MHK. Both MLP MHKs foray into world affairs, and their misguided attempts to believe that the IOM can influence the dynamics of a region is rather childlike and comical. It also coincides with the recent start of the new political year, sittings of Tynpotwald and the HoK, and both the MLP MHKs haven’t come up with anything meaningful to the debate. They were also silent during the holiday period, unless Cretters Senior was devising policy? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 37 minutes ago, Steve_Christian said: I don’t think it’s a choice. I think she can do both. I doubt it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 15 minutes ago, 2112 said: She was photographed attending the British Irish Council Summit recently. Will probably get a COMIN role at some point, so any principles will go out of the window. particularly as she is lined up to support the work permit abolition vote , and sell the lowere paid down the river , must keep in with friends on the the chamber of commerce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, Omobono said: particularly as she is lined up to support the work permit abolition vote , and sell the lowere paid down the river , must keep in with friends on the the chamber of commerce Just think about that. Do you really think people will be flocking here to take lower paid jobs? Would you uproot yourself to move elsewhere with more expensive accommodation (if you can find it) and no automatic entitlement to benefits if the job doesn't work out? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Gladys said: Just think about that. Do you really think people will be flocking here to take lower paid jobs? Would you uproot yourself to move elsewhere with more expensive accommodation (if you can find it) and no automatic entitlement to benefits if the job doesn't work out? It depends on the nature of those incoming migrants, Gladys. Look at some of the reputed predecessors, living upstairs above the old KFC, or top to tail in guest houses single rooms on the prom. There will always be those prepared to rough it accommodation-wise and also employers who will welcome them on account of their being willing to work for less on account of having lower expectancy. Do we really want to be in a race to the bottom? Edited October 28, 2023 by Non-Believer Fat fingers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Non-Believer said: It depends on the nature of those incoming migrants, Gladys. Look at some of the reputed predecessors, living upstairs above the old KFC, top to tail in guest houses on the prom. There will always be those prepared to rough it accommodation-wise and also employers who will welcome them on account of their being willing to work for less on account of having lo But the work permit system was operating and didn't prevent that situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Gladys said: But the work permit system was operating and didn't prevent that situation. True - but do we want to multiply the situation and be complicit in it by legalising it? There will always be those who flout the law....but if we have no laws we have no control at all. Edited October 28, 2023 by Non-Believer Typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: True - but do we want to multiply the situation and be complicit in it by legalising it? There will always be those who flout the law....but if we have no laws we have no control at all. Of course there will, but if the work permit system is there or not, they will still operate in that way. If people are being trafficked, the trafficker is hardly likely to apply for work permits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cueey Lewis And The News Posted October 29, 2023 Author Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Non-Believer said: It depends on the nature of those incoming migrants, Gladys. Look at some of the reputed predecessors, living upstairs above the old KFC, or top to tail in guest houses single rooms on the prom. There will always be those prepared to rough it accommodation-wise and also employers who will welcome them on account of their being willing to work for less on account of having lower expectancy. Do we really want to be in a race to the bottom? I would say this is a similar scam and you certainly won’t be putting up a needy “international student” in your spare room. Edited October 29, 2023 by Cueey Lewis And The News 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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