Courtenay Heading again

[HeliX]

6 minutes ago, ricardo said:

Tim Glover is not a stupid man.

Yes he is.

[Banker]

1 hour ago, HeliX said:

Yes he is.

And so are his supporters.

[Amadeus]

14 hours ago, wrighty said:

What did he say?

 

[ricardo]

Whether one believes that or not, there are very real issues that happened at Abbotswood. They are of the nature that our police service - the one that throws its’ resources at teenagers with cannabis, and a little at fraudsters, while turning a blind eye to really serious issues - has filed them in the ‘nothing to see here’ department.

If there is anyone reading who actually cares, rather than simply wishes to throw around fatuous comments, Abbotswood is worthy of a very close look. Which is no doubt why Mr Heading is now in Jurby.

Allinson is definitely in the second category - as will no doubt be fully revealed when he finally gets the job he has coveted for so long.

[Gladys]

1 hour ago, ricardo said:

Courtenay Heading is obsessive and does not have good listening skills which makes him easy to dismiss. But does not make him wrong. If one takes the time to actually listen to what he says one discovers how well informed he is - the upside to obsession. I am delighted to discover that Tim Glover is one who has done.

Tim Glover is not a stupid man. That he has been persuaded of what really happened in Abbotswood (and tragically, many, many other nursing homes) will have been as a result of the totally compelling evidence Mr Heading has compiled. And it is compelling. Which is no doubt the reason Mr Glover offered his support. And no doubt the reason Mr Heading has been jailed - by our miserably corrupt courts.

As ever, the truth will out.

The reason that he was jailed was that he harassed a pregnant woman, seriously interfering with her ability to go about her life without fear. 

[kevster]

I wonder if they have this in the prison library. Just finished it, an interesting and entertaining read, just right for Courtenay's bedtime reading

 

 

[Declan]

2 hours ago, ricardo said:

Tim Glover is not a stupid man.

All evidence points the other way.

[code99]

I have a low opinion of Tim Glover, however, he did not ‘shred’ letters nor did he send his lovely peeps around for a ‘chat’ with Dr Glover to talk her out of making complaints against the DHSC i.e. the Government.

Unlike Hooper and August-Hanson, Tim Glover did not “subject the HSCC panel to an ‘hour-long rant’ over its annual report.” What he is actually doing is raising “questions regarding Abbotswood which will be raised during the forthcoming Tynwald debates."…it seems Cannan and Dr Allinson don’t like it, IMHO.

[Fred the shred]

What he is doing is supporting a man who is a criminal and a public nuisance.

[Gladys]

5 minutes ago, code99 said:

I have a low opinion of Tim Glover, however, he did not ‘shred’ letters nor did he send his lovely peeps around for a ‘chat’ with Dr Glover to talk her out of making complaints against the DHSC i.e. the Government.

Unlike Hooper and August-Hanson, Tim Glover did not “subject the HSCC panel to an ‘hour-long rant’ over its annual report.” What he is actually doing is raising “questions regarding Abbotswood which will be raised during the forthcoming Tynwald debates."…it seems Cannan and Dr Allinson don’t like it, IMHO.

The issue is not that TG still has questions about Abbotswood that he wants to pose, we all have some concerns, but that he  replied to CH supportively after being found guilty of a crime for which is now been jailed.   Imprudent. 

[code99]

8 minutes ago, Gladys said:

The issue is not that TG still has questions about Abbotswood that he wants to pose, we all have some concerns, but that he  replied to CH supportively after being found guilty of a crime for which is now been jailed.   Imprudent. 

But does he really support CH? 

"Mr Glover says: "I believe Dr Allinson has got hold of the wrong end of the stick."

"I also get inundated with messages from Mr Heading and his supporters and my tweet was aimed at them. 

"Dr Glover has shown remarkable bravery in standing up to this type of stalking and I greatly admire her for doing so. 

"I took my tweet down as it was generating the wrong sort of heat which I naively didn’t expect. 

"There are questions regarding Abbotswood which will be raised during the forthcoming Tynwald debates."

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/mhk-asked-to-apologise-after-take-care-tweet-to-convicted-stalker/

[Gladys]

13 minutes ago, code99 said:

But does he really support CH? 

"Mr Glover says: "I believe Dr Allinson has got hold of the wrong end of the stick."

"I also get inundated with messages from Mr Heading and his supporters and my tweet was aimed at them. 

"Dr Glover has shown remarkable bravery in standing up to this type of stalking and I greatly admire her for doing so. 

"I took my tweet down as it was generating the wrong sort of heat which I naively didn’t expect. 

"There are questions regarding Abbotswood which will be raised during the forthcoming Tynwald debates."

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/mhk-asked-to-apologise-after-take-care-tweet-to-convicted-stalker/

Given the conviction and sentencing of CH, it would have been prudent not to tweet him at all, far less to offer any kind of concern that he take care. 

[Jarndyce]

38 minutes ago, code99 said:

I have a low opinion of Tim Glover, however, he did not ‘shred’ letters nor did he send his lovely peeps around for a ‘chat’ with Dr Glover to talk her out of making complaints against the DHSC i.e. the Government.

Unlike Hooper and August-Hanson, Tim Glover did not “subject the HSCC panel to an ‘hour-long rant’ over its annual report.” What he is actually doing is raising “questions regarding Abbotswood which will be raised during the forthcoming Tynwald debates."…it seems Cannan and Dr Allinson don’t like it, IMHO

I take your point regarding comparisons with the worst few (arguably) of the current batch - but surely he could have read his tweet before hitting the button, and spotted how it might be read?   I don’t think he’s intrinsically evil - but he must be naive and foolish at best?

Edited March 14 by Jarndyce
Typo

[code99]

19 minutes ago, Gladys said:

Given the conviction and sentencing of CH, it would have been prudent not to tweet him at all, far less to offer any kind of concern that he take care. 

Sure. I don't want to go out on a limb for this, but in his response Tim Glover said "I also get inundated with messages from Mr Heading and his supporters and my tweet was aimed at them."  Do you beleive him? I have no idea. Mind you, I don't beleive Ashford (and I am still waiting for his rebuttal) but the Government does.

End of.

[ricardo]

1 hour ago, Gladys said:

The reason that he was jailed was that he harassed a pregnant woman, seriously interfering with her ability to go about her life without fear. 

Hi Gladys

I have have no doubt of your positive intention. However, we have very different perspectives.

If one believes the events of September 11th 2001 were perpetrated by a bearded man in a cave one will have one perspective - and maybe be supportive of the US’s (aided and abetted by the unbelievably corrupt Tony Blair) so called ‘war on terror’ (which killed ONE MILLION INNOCENT CIVILIANS). If one is aligned with the evidence - rather than the media propaganda - one might conclude the US government conspired to cause those truly awful events, and is likely to have a different perspective. Ditto with Mr Heading.

What he actually did was send or copy-in Dr Glover to a series of e mails - which admittedly he does with a level of obsession.

The reason he is obsessed about this subject is that his belief is that the covid ‘vaccines’ are toxic and that Dr Glover either knew this, or was willfully ignorant. It is of course possible Dr Glover was unaware, but she would not be had she read the evidence Mr Heading bombarded her, and others with (I acknowledge there was ‘bombardment’).

I recognise that your beliefs & perspective are likely radically different from the above and acknowledge your right to hold them. However, Dr Glover had a responsibility to look at radically different evidence than that she was making her decisions on given she was a public health official with responsibility to the community. She did not do so.

Whilst she may well have been upset, and may well have been pregnant, she chose to blindly follow UK government advice. The UK government ignored and over-ruled its own ethics and advisory committee to go on and recommend UNTESTED covid ‘vaccines’ for children. This is something that has never been done in medical history yet Dr Glover went along with it. Which is, in my, and many others’, opinion, outrageous.

Mr Heading is a bell weather for many people’s perspective. He has far more support than you and others may believe - the usually silent minority. Only a few of whom are ‘nutters’.

There will be an appeal. Based on the evidence it will be surprising - even in the unbelievably corrupt Manx legal system - if Mr Heading’s sentence is not quashed. He may well not be acquitted - there were a lot of e mails! - but all the issues he has raised are valid.