John Wright Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, Banker said: What did David Cannan actually achieve and how did he confront CS as I can’t remember him achieving anything other than the sack by miles walker? He advanced to Treasury Minister about 4 years after his election at a 1982 by-election, but that didn’t last. Then he was speaker for about 18 months in 2000-2001. He did stand as, and fail to be elected, Chief Minister, and then Speaker in 2006. Effectively he sulked after being sacked as Treasury Minister. Tony Brown didn’t offer him any political memberships in his administration, because no one wanted to work with him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 32 minutes ago, John Wright said: He advanced to Treasury Minister about 4 years after his election at a 1982 by-election, but that didn’t last. Then he was speaker for about 18 months in 2000-2001. He did stand as, and fail to be elected, Chief Minister, and then Speaker in 2006. Effectively he sulked after being sacked as Treasury Minister. Tony Brown didn’t offer him any political memberships in his administration, because no one wanted to work with him. Kind of blows Sentience’s comment apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 he didn't last long as speaker , upset too many people ! ,job went to his head , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 2 hours ago, asitis said: Ahh Bell and Teare, Paragons of virtue ! Hated the both of them. Bell covered his own ass , yeah I know , on so many occasions and never forgive Teare and his stance and comments on Dependability . Along with the other total numpty Henderson. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 hour ago, John Wright said: He advanced to Treasury Minister about 4 years after his election at a 1982 by-election, but that didn’t last. Then he was speaker for about 18 months in 2000-2001. He did stand as, and fail to be elected, Chief Minister, and then Speaker in 2006. Effectively he sulked after being sacked as Treasury Minister. Tony Brown didn’t offer him any political memberships in his administration, because no one wanted to work with him. He certainly advanced, or at least promoted, the demolition of the Army/RAF camp at Jurby in 1988-ish, promising redevelopment and jobs for all out there. 35 years on, the only redevelopment and any jobs out there are totally unconnected to his assurances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: It's actually worse than Reynolds who at least had run airports before (admittedly she was sacked from one and closed down the other). I suspect the truth was they decided they must recruit someone from outside, so as to change the 'culture', but no one sensible would apply. I can't help wondering if this is a Nick Black-style appointment. Putting someone known to be weak and ineffectual in the top job so that everyone else can continue behaving in the same way as before. This is the way IoMG functions, anyone with any ideas for change is seen as a threat to the ineffectual majority. They haven't the mental capacity to manage any sort of change to the way they have always done things. They work against them, destroying their character, reputation and confidence, it's actually criminal. Manx Care is a cess pit of tossers for example, the Airport another! The only way to actually change anything is to sack every CEO of every department and recruit new people with a brief to change! Politicians can't change anything, they are not in office long enough, and anyway the CS just blocks anything they may try to do which will affect how they operate. We are stuck in a cycle of ineffective management by dunderheads! Edited December 29, 2023 by Max Power 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 29, 2023 Author Share Posted December 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, Max Power said: This is the way IoMG functions, anyone with any ideas for change is seen as a threat to the ineffectual majority. They haven't the mental capacity to manage any sort of change to the way they have always done things. They work against them, destroying their character, reputation and confidence, it's actually criminal. Manx Care is a cess pit of tossers for example, the Airport another! The only way to actually change anything is to sack every CEO of every department and recruit new people with a brief to change! Politicians can't change anything, they are not in office long enough, and anyway the CS just blocks anything they may try to do which will affect how they operate. We are stuck in a cycle of ineffective management by dunderheads! Sounds like government functions everywhere unless you have some good examples in uk or even Europe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 On 12/29/2023 at 6:56 PM, Banker said: Sounds like government functions everywhere unless you have some good examples in uk or even Europe? Every government can be accused of this culture in certain areas at times, we just seem to be playing with a full deck of the bastards! It must begin with those responsible for recruitment and promotion! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 I do like this quote that speaks absolute volumes in one sentence: "This will be one of my final destinations in terms of my career." https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/business/meet-the-qualified-chef-who-is-now-the-isle-of-man-governments-new-chief-executive-663679 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 ‘As senior officers, we’re accountable for our actions and the actions of our people." ‘My wife is a numerologist,’ "She really helps people with their careers " ‘Being chief executive can be quite a lonely place,’ he said. ‘The only person who can tell you you’re doing the right thing are yourself' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Quote ‘My wife is a numerologist,’ said Mr Ralphs. ‘She has her own business. She really helps people with their careers and uses numerology as a means to inform them about their life paths. Ibiza being quite a spiritual island is a place dear to our hearts and is somewhere we may want to retire to in many years’ time.’ blimey 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebushy Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 The bullshitometer is literally off the scale there! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 51 minutes ago, woolley said: I do like this quote that speaks absolute volumes in one sentence: "This will be one of my final destinations in terms of my career." https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/business/meet-the-qualified-chef-who-is-now-the-isle-of-man-governments-new-chief-executive-663679 The analogy that springs to mind is a footballer coming towards the end of a successful career who signs up for one last season in the Premiership for the last big payoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english zloty Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 He doesn't seem very dexterous with the written word. Good luck to him, seems he has a lot to learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 2 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: The analogy that springs to mind is a footballer coming towards the end of a successful career who signs up for one last season in the Premiership for the last big payoff. Except, as I pointed out on his appointment, his extensive career (now hidden but luckily I pasted it in) as a bullshit butterfly doesn't really indicate Premiership quality. More someone clogging away in the lower leagues who's somehow been inexplicably picked up by a wealthy overseas club. It is an interview of astonishing vacuity, even by the standards of the IOM Civil Service. There's a lot of words but absolutely no ideas, and the impression that strategies and plans are things in themselves rather than something you use carry out actions and modify according to success or failure. Instead plans, strategies, visions and the rest exist to produce documents and more of the same. I can't help feeling this is a Nick Black-style appointment. Someone, who's no doubt personally very nice, unsuited for the job who is basically there to protect those nominally under him from responsibility. Meanwhile Randall will continue to control things from the Treasury. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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