The Voice of Reason Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, CrazyDave said: You think the parents of the babies involved wouldn’t have already been notified by the police and involved in the trial and collecting of evidence?? Really? No I don’t think that. So that information becomes in the public domain then Edited October 21, 2023 by The Voice of Reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the shred Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 When Liverpool beat Man United by 7-0 I was interested to hear who had scored because I am an avid fan , of Liverpool, and like to know the individual players form. It cannot be compared with a persons name being published or not in the local rag. My point which I have made in a previous post is …if it were someone from Pulrose would any lawyer even dream of asking for non publication of their name even if they had 10 children, no I don’t think so. All things are equal or should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDave Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: No I don’t think that. So that information becomes in the public domain then Yes it’s in the public domain, who has ever said it wasn’t? Are you aware what we are discussing because you seem to be missing the point by an absolute mile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 It's tedious trawling through this to catch up on the story. Shouldn't have gone beyond the first page. We have public courts and a free press. Basic principles of a democracy. Only under exceptional circumstances should those principles be broken. It's not even about who he is or what he does. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 7 pages about a story of a guy 99.9% of people would have forgotten as soon as they scrolled past it on Facebook. Well done OP. For what it's worth if you don't want your name in the papers don't commit criminal offences that lead to you ending up in court. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDave Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 13 minutes ago, Shake me up Judy said: It's tedious trawling through this to catch up on the story. Shouldn't have gone beyond the first page. We have public courts and a free press. Basic principles of a democracy. Only under exceptional circumstances should those principles be broken. It's not even about who he is or what he does. What about peoples medical records? Should we publish list of medical procedures as well? Naming people in court cases harms them and their family and there is simply no need for it. If it’s basic principles of a free democracy, then why do other democracies ban it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDave Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: 7 pages about a story of a guy 99.9% of people would have forgotten as soon as they scrolled past it on Facebook. Well done OP. For what it's worth if you don't want your name in the papers don't commit criminal offences that lead to you ending up in court. That is such a smug and pious attitude. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, CrazyDave said: What about peoples medical records? Should we publish list of medical procedures as well? Time for a lie down. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 i wondering why we publish the names of murderers when they get convicted ?? they are going to be locked up for a considerable amount of time and as such are no danger to the public so why do we need to know??? maybe they should only be named a few weeks before they are due to be released ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 39 minutes ago, CrazyDave said: That is such a smug and pious attitude. Not really, it's called self responsibility, I don't want to cause embarrassment to myself or my family so I won't do anything that might land me in court. Maybe if people just started taking responsibility for their actions instead if blaming everything and everyone society might be a bit of a better place 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDave Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: Not really, it's called self responsibility, I don't want to cause embarrassment to myself or my family so I won't do anything that might land me in court. Maybe if people just started taking responsibility for their actions instead if blaming everything and everyone society might be a bit of a better place Life sometimes throws people a curveball, and the last thing they need in that situation when they have already been dealt with appropriately by police and the courts is a load of smug and self righteous people judging them because a radio station wants some clicks on its website. I am still to see a valid reason as to why we publish the names of anyone convicted of anything, or why other countries have outlawed it? Anyone replying would do well to check the relevant rehabilitation of offenders legislation before stating they wouldn’t want to employ or live near a convicted person or any other such rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 51 minutes ago, CrazyDave said: What about peoples medical records? Should we publish list of medical procedures as well? You should stop making silly comparisons. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 What does the rehabilitation of offenders legislation say about not wanting to live near a convicted offender? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, CrazyDave said: Life sometimes throws people a curveball, and the last thing they need in that situation when they have already been dealt with appropriately by police and the courts is a load of smug and self righteous people judging them because a radio station wants some clicks on its website. And sometimes ( most times) people commit crimes for no more than personal gain ( stealing, mugging etc) and sometimes for no good reason, just because they are not nice people ( assault, domestic violence or abuse both mental and physical etc). I see no reason why they should not be named. That’s not me judging them as a smug and self righteous person. If due process reveals the need for intervention by any particular agency, for example for drug or alcohol abuse then that should be available.In such cases people are more understanding than maybe you think they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 42 minutes ago, CrazyDave said: Life sometimes throws people a curveball, and the last thing they need in that situation when they have already been dealt with appropriately by police and the courts is a load of smug and self righteous people judging them because a radio station wants some clicks on its website. I am still to see a valid reason as to why we publish the names of anyone convicted of anything, or why other countries have outlawed it? Anyone replying would do well to check the relevant rehabilitation of offenders legislation before stating they wouldn’t want to employ or live near a convicted person or any other such rubbish. I personally couldn't care less what someone has been convicted of, these stories I'll read then forget about it. As do the majority of other people. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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