Non-Believer Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Laxey said: Things may be about to get a whole lot worse for IOM Post though… ….according to our postie, IOM Post Office may lose the contract for parcels from Royal Mail to Manx Independent Carriers…..and whilst MIC may not have enough infrastructure to cope with the volume of parcels, IOM Post Office may end up delivering them on behalf of MIC…..but at a lower per parcel price, therefore reducing their income further. They've been losing various parcel work to private carriers for several years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Laxey said: I am more of a lurker than a poster! I’m out of the closet now though!!! I was meaning about your "news" which can be found on the first page of this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 minute ago, finlo said: I was meaning about your "news" which can be found on the first page of this thread. No, that's just the Parcelforce work. This is other smaller parcels and stuff as well. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maugholdmafia Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 41 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: No, that's just the Parcelforce work. This is other smaller parcels and stuff as well. From my knowledge of working at IOMPost for a few years several years ago, the yodel parcel contract was lost to manx independent carriers in about 2018 but then sub contracted back because they could not handle the extra. They paid post office peanuts in comparison. i think something similar happened with hermes and dpd years before that… if royal mail goes to manx independent, I can see the hermes couriers taking over some of that work, and just having smaller areas to cover with more parcels per street. it also gives manx independent the option to cherry pick where they want to deliver. For example, they may choose to deliver the royal mail parcels within douglas and onchan themselves but leave all the rural parcels which are not profitable to iom post. One things for sure, IOM Post are in dire straights. Glad I got out when I could. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 11 hours ago, finlo said: Where have you been hiding? laxey maybe ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 11 hours ago, Maugholdmafia said: From my knowledge of working at IOMPost for a few years several years ago, the yodel parcel contract was lost to manx independent carriers in about 2018 but then sub contracted back because they could not handle the extra. They paid post office peanuts in comparison. i think something similar happened with hermes and dpd years before that… if royal mail goes to manx independent, I can see the hermes couriers taking over some of that work, and just having smaller areas to cover with more parcels per street. it also gives manx independent the option to cherry pick where they want to deliver. For example, they may choose to deliver the royal mail parcels within douglas and onchan themselves but leave all the rural parcels which are not profitable to iom post. One things for sure, IOM Post are in dire straights. Glad I got out when I could. So the fact is, that whatever Stu Peters says about the race to the bottom.... IOMP are already there. The simple fact is that the small parcel sector works in the same way as letters.... it's volume, nothing more. I really don't understand why this is an issue for IOMP, they have the assets and people (their main asset) to provide an all-Island service and should really be the go-to entity for this type of business. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 15 hours ago, Laxey said: I am more of a lurker than a poster! I think most of us are now when it comes to sending letters. That's the problem Stu is manfully grappling with. Can he turn it around?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, woolley said: I think most of us are now when it comes to sending letters. That's the problem Stu is manfully grappling with. Can he turn it around?? if anybody can U turn its a politician Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cueey Lewis And The News Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Andy Onchan said: So the fact is, that whatever Stu Peters says about the race to the bottom.... IOMP are already there. The simple fact is that the small parcel sector works in the same way as letters.... it's volume, nothing more. I really don't understand why this is an issue for IOMP, they have the assets and people (their main asset) to provide an all-Island service and should really be the go-to entity for this type of business. Because they clearly don’t have a scooby doo about how to run a logistics business and employ largely managers with no commercial experience but 30 years experience of sitting behind a desk in a risk-free environment. There’s probably a report in there that says that they don’t get any contracts they pitch for as they don’t have enough electric vans because they’ve paid a consultant who has shown that people won’t pay a postal provider that is polluting the planet in 2023 because of net zero. The usual government total bullshit incompetence justifying stuff and support the buying of ridiculous capital items that they don’t need just because they fancied some new toys. Edited December 13, 2023 by Cueey Lewis And The News 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 4 hours ago, Andy Onchan said: So the fact is, that whatever Stu Peters says about the race to the bottom.... IOMP are already there. The simple fact is that the small parcel sector works in the same way as letters.... it's volume, nothing more. I really don't understand why this is an issue for IOMP, they have the assets and people (their main asset) to provide an all-Island service and should really be the go-to entity for this type of business. I think the issue is Post Office pay the posties good wages, pensions and benefits but the rest don’t. So you can have cheaper post but staff getting paid worse like the rest of industry and then you’re into a fire and rehire situation that people on steam packet thread say is not acceptable. Wait for Cueey to come on with more bullshit solutions 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Just now, Banker said: I think the issue is Post Office pay the posties good wages, pensions and benefits but the rest don’t. So you can have cheaper post but staff getting paid worse like the rest of industry and then you’re into a fire and rehire situation that people on steam packet thread say is not acceptable. Wait for Cueey to come on with more bullshit solutions 😂 Well, if they carry as they are no one will have a job. So the union should be cognisant of that situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Just now, Andy Onchan said: Well, if they carry as they are no one will have a job. So the union should be cognisant of that situation. Unions being cognisant that’s a good oxymoron 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 I think the post office has to many managerial positions and are over payed for the posts. Managers generally but not always are in a different union than the hands on brigade because they are special. So no doubt the fire rehire will not effect them as they make the decisions then blame the pesky work force when the decisions go tits up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Can anyone say why the mail coming by boat rather than plane requires fewer staff??? Surely, same amount of mail, number of vans and staff to deliver? Excuse for redundancies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Central Scrutiniser Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Because they used to send a veritable army of vans, postmen & managers to unload the airmail off the aircraft. Now it comes in one or two containers collected by one contract driver & his tractor unit. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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