english zloty Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Numbnuts said: Yes , no humility being shown there is there. By all means buy a fancy car but don’t get your picture taken with it. Wonder if there will be a picture if it breaks down or the battery has to be replaced in years to come at stupid price. Or when it's parked up all day at govt offices getting a free charge for the 'long' commute home 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cueey Lewis And The News Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, Shake me up Judy said: What's the forecourt price of one of those ? The car I mean. Anywhere between £38K and £50K depending on specification. Which probably means at least £55K from Jackson’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 she earns an above average salary, as do 36 other poiliticians! but that leaves some 20,000 private/public sector employees doing the same, castigate mhks but look at your colleagues too??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercenary Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Cueey Lewis And The News said: Anywhere between £38K and £50K depending on specification. Which probably means at least £55K from Jackson’s. But is the battery sufficient to get you from Dhoon to Earystane in one run? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 8 minutes ago, Mercenary said: from Dhoon to Earystane in How far is that? Is it more than the average 150+ miles on a battery charge??? She'd be in the sea surely!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expat. Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 22 hours ago, CrazyDave said: What do you expect him to have announced, planned and implemented on two years? Two years? You can get a lot done in two years, or at least you could back in the day. Elected in 1945 by 1947 the Atlee government had nationalised the coal mining industry and the Bank of England, created the National Health Service and local area electricity boards introduced national Insurance and the welfare state eradicating the poor laws and the workhouse system, started building over a million council houses, introduced family allowances amongst many other things. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Expat. said: Two years? You can get a lot done in two years, or at least you could back in the day. Elected in 1945 by 1947 the Atlee government had nationalised the coal mining industry and the Bank of England, created the National Health Service and local area electricity boards introduced national Insurance and the welfare state eradicating the poor laws and the workhouse system, started building over a million council houses, introduced family allowances amongst many other things. Still got hoofed out at the next election. Electorates are not noted for their gratitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Congratulations to them all, not a job I'd like to do. Thoroughly deserved and if I wasn't so skint after the Island being run into the ground I'd be prepared to give you more. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 12 hours ago, woolley said: Still got hoofed out at the next election. Electorates are not noted for their gratitude. Actually they won the next election in 1950 but with a reduced majority of only 5. Called another election a year later, got 48.8% of the popular vote (vs the Tories 48.0%), but fewer seats than the Tories because of how the votes were distributed. Labour got - 47.7% in 1945 46.1% in 1950 48.8% in 1951 Generally speaking the British people vote for the Government until they are heartily sick of them. Apart from 1945 (which was the first election in 10 years) "the Government" won the popular vote every election between 1924 and 1964. Since then the governing party lost 3 times in the 70s then 1997 and 2010. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 3 hours ago, Declan said: Actually they won the next election in 1950 but with a reduced majority of only 5. Called another election a year later, got 48.8% of the popular vote (vs the Tories 48.0%), but fewer seats than the Tories because of how the votes were distributed. Labour got - 47.7% in 1945 46.1% in 1950 48.8% in 1951 Generally speaking the British people vote for the Government until they are heartily sick of them. Apart from 1945 (which was the first election in 10 years) "the Government" won the popular vote every election between 1924 and 1964. Since then the governing party lost 3 times in the 70s then 1997 and 2010. There wasn't an extant "government" to vote for in 1945 because the coalition wasn't standing. OK, they struggled on from 1950 to 1951 but they were as good as hoofed out. The zeitgeist had moved on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted November 1, 2023 Author Share Posted November 1, 2023 C£10m pa wages cost of pay rise plus presumably NI & pension costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 55 minutes ago, woolley said: There wasn't an extant "government" to vote for in 1945 because the coalition wasn't standing. OK, they struggled on from 1950 to 1951 but they were as good as hoofed out. The zeitgeist had moved on. They got the most votes in the General Election they "lost". More votes than any party got until the Tories in 1992, more than they themselves got in 1945. They were hoofed out by a quirk in the electoral system*, not because their policies were rejected. In fact the "The Zeitgeist" was firmly in favour of their reforms - the Tories ran on a platform of keeping the Welfare State and the NHS. * and because the Liberal support collapsed and their supporters did what they always do when push comes to shove and backed the Tories. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expat. Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 5 hours ago, woolley said: There wasn't an extant "government" to vote for in 1945 because the coalition wasn't standing. OK, they struggled on from 1950 to 1951 but they were as good as hoofed out. The zeitgeist had moved on. There is no such thing as 'as good as hoofed out' Labour were elected in 1950 with a majority reduced to five. The way my grandmother confessed it, once my grandfather had died and couldn't hear it, she secretly voted for the Tories because Churchill promised to end rationing and Atlee didn't. Rationing didn't end until 1954. Incidentally she hated Churchill with a passion. I remember watching his funeral with her and her sisters sitting in a row on the settee mee mawing away with faces like bulldogs licking piss off a cactus. Labour should have been able to govern even with a majority of five, but in true Labour style their discipline fell apart as the Bevanites and the Gaitskillites loathed each other. Anyway, what were we talking about? Oh yeah, how much your politicos wages have gone up. Our lot got just short of 3% so you can judge for yourself if any of them are worth paying in washers or anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 8 hours ago, Declan said: They got the most votes in the General Election they "lost". More votes than any party got until the Tories in 1992, more than they themselves got in 1945. They were hoofed out by a quirk in the electoral system*, not because their policies were rejected. In fact the "The Zeitgeist" was firmly in favour of their reforms - the Tories ran on a platform of keeping the Welfare State and the NHS. * and because the Liberal support collapsed and their supporters did what they always do when push comes to shove and backed the Tories. They still lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 That wasn't your original point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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