Hitting it Big

[Passing Time]

1 minute ago, The Voice of Reason said:

I suspect it’s probably more about the sort of people you socialise with that determines how many winners you are likely to know 

"the sort" what does that even mean. People enter a competition and hope to win. Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't. What part of that do you fail to understand?

[CrazyDave]

10 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

I suspect it’s probably more about the sort of people you socialise with that determines how many winners you are likely to know 

True.  There probably aren’t many in the out of touch old duffers home for example.

[The Voice of Reason]

25 minutes ago, Passing Time said:

"the sort" what does that even mean. People enter a competition and hope to win. Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't. What part of that do you fail to understand?

“ the sort” means the sort of people who like entering such competitions. Some people are more likely to do this than others.

If your list of friends and acquaintances contain those who are more likely to enter such competitions it stands to reason that you are more likely to know winners ( and indeed losers) .

What part of that do you fail to understand?

[CrazyDave]

18 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

“ the sort” means the sort of people who like entering such competitions. Some people are more likely to do this than others.

If your list of friends and acquaintances contain those who are more likely to enter such competitions it stands to reason that you are more likely to know winners ( and indeed losers) .

What part of that do you fail to understand?

No, it makes sense.

Which is why I can’t fathom why you find it so difficult to comprehend that some of us know lots of winners?

The point you make above, pretty much explains exactly why I and others on here know several, and you for example don’t.

I don’t think that’s actually what you meant by “sort” though, but you know that as well as we do.

Edited November 23, 2023 by CrazyDave

[Passing Time]

22 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

“ the sort” means the sort of people who like entering such competitions. Some people are more likely to do this than others.

If your list of friends and acquaintances contain those who are more likely to enter such competitions it stands to reason that you are more likely to know winners ( and indeed losers) .

What part of that do you fail to understand?

You sound more like that plantpot Clueless Lewis with each posting

[woolley]

On 11/22/2023 at 10:15 AM, CrazyDave said:

Does anyone care?

Astonishingly it's 12 pages in, so I suppose they must. First world issues, eh?

[The Voice of Reason]

55 minutes ago, CrazyDave said:

No, it makes sense.

Which is why I can’t fathom why you find it so difficult to comprehend that some of us know lots of winners?

The point you make above, pretty much explains exactly why I and others on here know several, and you for example don’t.

I don’t think that’s actually what you meant by “sort” though, but you know that as well as we do.

People choose to spend their money as they wish. Be it such competitions, nights out, soft furnishings etc. Their choice, and it’s not unnatural that you align with those who share your own interests

I  am aware of what you are trying to imply in your last paragraph. I find it a little insulting but not really worth pursuing.

[mannin]

21 hours ago, Mouthpiece said:

Go back up the thread I think I’ve been clear. 

TBH you haven't, you have made some vague generalisations about what you think, but have failed to actually quote the relevant act(s) or even give any indication that you have read them.

**TLDR - Nothing about Hitting it Big (or similar sites) contravenes any (current) Isle of Man laws as long as they are not operated from this jurisdiction.  

 

FYI (in case you are not aware of it)

The legal definition of a lottery (Lexis Nexis)

....Lotteries involve the distribution of prizes by chance to participants who have made a monetary contribution ... 

In the UK THE GAMBLING ACT 2005 has provision of these 'skill' games that qualifies them as a lottery. (see Section 14.5)

A process which requires persons to exercise skill or judgment or to display knowledge shall be treated for the purposes of this section as relying wholly on chance if—

(a)the requirement cannot reasonably be expected to prevent a significant proportion of persons who participate in the arrangement of which the process forms part from receiving a prize, and

(b)the requirement cannot reasonably be expected to prevent a significant proportion of persons who wish to participate in that arrangement from doing so.

In the Isle of Man GAMING BETTING AND LOTTERIES ACT 1988 is concerned with and only with gaming, betting and lotteries conducted on the IOM and is only enforceable against those on Island and is concerned with those actions that require actual gaming (rather than online.) 

In the IOM we have not adopted the variation of these 'skill' games that would have them seen as a lottery, The IOM can not view this as a lottery because there is a question to answer, regardless of how simple that question is.

The closest that you will find under this legislation is 29.1.e, but this can not me applied to online games.

Online gaming is covered by ONLINE GAMBLING REGULATION ACT 2001 (more commonly known as OGRA)

OGRA is concerned with the provision of online gaming FROM the IOM not into the IOM, there is nothing in this legislation that would affect hitting it big.