The Phantom Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Another royal shambles it seems. I've got the option of sending kids there or to Ballakermeen and to be honest the biggest thing putting me off is the fact it's pretty much falling down. Same story with the swimming pool next door. Is this something to do with the Ctown Politicos? No mention of kennels or cat-flaps. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/a-new-castle-rushen-high-school-the-story-so-far/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 It would really help if they shared more information. Why are they going back to the design stage? It just seems crazy and a real waste of money. I have not been in the school for a very long time so no idea what it is like inside now other than the odd photo I have seen online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, The Phantom said: Another royal shambles it seems. I've got the option of sending kids there or to Ballakermeen and to be honest the biggest thing putting me off is the fact it's pretty much falling down. Same story with the swimming pool next door. Is this something to do with the Ctown Politicos? No mention of kennels or cat-flaps. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/a-new-castle-rushen-high-school-the-story-so-far/ Basically lack of available funds, you’ve got many calling for a stop to using reserves to fund expenditure including capex and you’ve got an equal amount calling for more expenditure on education, health, roads, airport etc etc & without increased taxes or increased population bringing more tax then the situation will continue. Issue with all many economies with aging population being a major cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellanvannin2010 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 But Ramsey and Ballakermeen/Douglas High schools are much older, why is this one falling to pieces?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 It says built in 1961, but I thought it opened late 40's / early 50's - was it pre-fab then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 You can buy modular schools these days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 You can bet that, like the hospital, it'll cost three times as much to build as the same size school in the U.K. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Banker said: Basically lack of available funds, you’ve got many calling for a stop to using reserves to fund expenditure including capex and you’ve got an equal amount calling for more expenditure on education, health, roads, airport etc etc & without increased taxes or increased population bringing more tax then the situation will continue. Issue with all many economies with aging population being a major cause. I think what you mean is the size of the administration and its penchant for wholesale waste. There is no money now, mainly because of government profligacy, ineptitude, mismanagement , call it what you will. Whichever way, we have gone from an affluent society to the bottom of the bowl in just a few short years. The funds wasted on failed and mismanaged projects and vanity projects could have built a number of schools. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 hours ago, The Phantom said: Another royal shambles it seems. I've got the option of sending kids there or to Ballakermeen and to be honest the biggest thing putting me off is the fact it's pretty much falling down. Same story with the swimming pool next door. Is this something to do with the Ctown Politicos? No mention of kennels or cat-flaps. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/a-new-castle-rushen-high-school-the-story-so-far/ Ballakermeen if I was you. I went to CRHS a long time ago but there's no way I'd send my kids there now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Declan said: It says built in 1961, but I thought it opened late 40's / early 50's - was it pre-fab then? BHS was built in the 30s. They built stuff to last then unlike in the 60s. It also had a lot of extensions and development since then (some good some bad). They built a huge new 6th form section about 10 years ago and there was a big new hall development about 20 years ago. Not sure if there has been much development and improvement of CRHS over that time? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 32 minutes ago, Shake me up Judy said: You can bet that, like the hospital, it'll cost three times as much to build as the same size school in the U.K. Nobody in this current government should be allowed anywhere near a building project. They have not got a clue and as you rightly say, will end up costing a lot more. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, The Phantom said: BHS was built in the 30s. They built stuff to last then unlike in the 60s. It also had a lot of extensions and development since then (some good some bad). They built a huge new 6th form section about 10 years ago and there was a big new hall development about 20 years ago. Not sure if there has been much development and improvement of CRHS over that time? `I meant CRHS - I thought it opened before 1961. In fact I'm pretty certain. It was pretty grotty in the 80's - but wasn't everything. It certainly didn't seem only 20 years old. They added a new block / library etc then but we had many lessons in mobile classrooms. I think they've added more to it in the 90's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 30 minutes ago, asitis said: I think what you mean is the size of the administration and its penchant for wholesale waste. There is no money now, mainly because of government profligacy, ineptitude, mismanagement , call it what you will. Whichever way, we have gone from an affluent society to the bottom of the bowl in just a few short years. The funds wasted on failed and mismanaged projects and vanity projects could have built a number of schools. That’s definitely part of it but the costs of Covid c£250m+ have also contributed to lack of funds/escalation of costs, the costs of Covid have also caused massive impact on nearly every world economy. One can argue about the money given to s9me businesses and the full payment to most public sector for doing nothing whilst self employed got very little etc the fact remains it was very costly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, Declan said: but we had many lessons in mobile classrooms. I think they've added more to it in the 90's It is a pity that they did not use a mobile classroom type of structure for the Liverpool landing stage. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 The new building should take account of future requirements, is. it should allow for future upwards expansion rather than need a new site for future expansion? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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