Cueey Lewis And The News Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) A motion of no confidence in Guernsey's Policy and Resources (P&R) Committee has today been approved by politicians. Makes you wonder if we’d ever do something as democratic? https://gef.im/news/politics/guernseys-gov-collapses-43329/ https://www.itv.com/news/channel/2023-12-13/new-government-for-guernsey-after-top-politicians-ousted-in-confidence-vote# https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-guernsey-67691280 Opening the debate, Deputy Charles Parkinson - who called for the vote - said Guernsey needs "less divisive leadership" and a "vision to prioritise sustainable economic growth". He said he has been embarrassed by the "shambles" demonstrated, accusing the current P&R members of "promoting division, procrastination and inaction". Edited December 13, 2023 by Cueey Lewis And The News Edited to add extra links. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Imagine Comin being able to disband a Scrutiny Committee!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cueey Lewis And The News Posted December 13, 2023 Author Share Posted December 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, Kopek said: Imagine Comin being able to disband a Scrutiny Committee!!! Meanwhile here the best they can do is some sad arsehole trying to drop the CM in the shit with the police and failing miserably with hilarious results. It looks like Guernsey politicians at least have the guts for a fight. The CM gone and a lot of his senior team in a vote immediately after they all had their lovely Xmas lunch. A bit like the last supper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 18 minutes ago, Kopek said: Imagine Comin being able to disband a Scrutiny Committee!!! A bit like Hooper trying to bin the DHSC/Manx Care oversight committee? 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, Cueey Lewis And The News said: Meanwhile here the best they can do is some sad arsehole trying to drop the CM in the shit with the police and failing miserably with hilarious results. It looks like Guernsey politicians at least have the guts for a fight. The CM gone and a lot of his senior team in a vote immediately after they all had their lovely Xmas lunch. A bit like the last supper. You speak with such authority on how the CM became embroiled in a situation .. are you the CM? there were witnesses you know. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cueey Lewis And The News Posted December 13, 2023 Author Share Posted December 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, daisy said: You speak with such authority on how the CM became embroiled in a situation .. are you the CM? there were witnesses you know. Yes it’s all a conspiracy https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/chief-minister-refutes-drink-drive-speculation-654727 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, Cueey Lewis And The News said: Yes it’s all a conspiracy https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/chief-minister-refutes-drink-drive-speculation-654727 Of course he refutes it ...carefully crafted press release as you would expect .... Edited December 14, 2023 by daisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cueey Lewis And The News Posted December 13, 2023 Author Share Posted December 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, daisy said: Of course he refutes it ...carefully crafted press release as you would expect .... but as mentioned previously there are real live witnesses. Those witnesses have already made written submissions and statements to the police then I assume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Cueey Lewis And The News said: Those witnesses have already made written submissions and statements to the police then I assume. Reality and perception can be quite different. In such things assumptions should not be made - one way or the other, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cueey Lewis And The News Posted December 13, 2023 Author Share Posted December 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, daisy said: Reality and perception can be quite different. In such things assumptions should not be made - one way or the other, But surely with so many claimed witnesses they’ve all now trotted off to the cops now that they’re so angry about a cover up to make formal witness statements to back up what they claim they saw so that it can all be investigated. Otherwise all the claims would just be conspiracy wouldn’t they? Anyway there was a big vote of no confidence in Guernsey today where senior government ministers got a right beating. Is that ever likely to happen here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Just now, Cueey Lewis And The News said: But surely with so many claimed witnesses they’ve all now trotted off to the cops now that they’re so angry about a cover up to make formal witness statements to back up what they claim they saw so that it can all be investigated. Otherwise all the claims would just be conspiracy wouldn’t they? Anyway there was a big vote of no confidence in Guernsey today where senior government ministers got a right beating. Is that ever likely to happen here? Your definition of conspiracy is different to mine. Will vote of no confidence happen here? I dont know... a straw poll would be interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 53 minutes ago, daisy said: Your definition of conspiracy is different to mine. Will vote of no confidence happen here? I dont know... a straw poll would be interesting As much as I would like a vote of no confidence, it’s a real case of be careful for what you wish for. If you oust CM Cannan, who do you elect? Allinson? Professor Ashford? Hooperman? Would there be a shift in priorities? I doubt it, it would carry off from before - bash the Bishop. Our politicos would find another axe to grind. CM Cannan is in all fairness, a spent force, rather ineffective and tired. He will muddle through till the next general election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringy Rose Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, 2112 said: If you oust CM Cannan, who do you elect? Allinson? Yes. It’s who they should have elected as CM in the first place. Whether you agree with him or not, he understands things and his wife (and her job, to be fair) keeps him nicely grounded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 hour ago, 2112 said: f you oust CM Cannan, who do you elect? Allinson? Professor Ashford? Hooperman? Well, though one! As well as Allinson, there is a possibility of Wannaburg, KLB may certainly be put forward, Poole Wilson as a possibility, Watterson could decide his experience could be better than waiting for the Presidents robes and then he would seek to scrap thePresidents role in spite??? Of course, Alf will likely hang on till the next GE and, I suspect that he will not contest that, so maybe, just maybe there may be front runner from the first time elected??? Last time there was Cannan, Thomas and Beecroft! Although then, I supported Thomas he has turned out to be a bit of a wet lettuce!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 35 minutes ago, Kopek said: Last time there was Cannan, Thomas and Beecroft! Although then, I supported Thomas he has turned out to be a bit of a wet lettuce!!! No wonder he did so badly, given that he didn't stand - and Beecroft/Costain wasn't even an MHK. Here's the actual vote in 2021: Cannan and Beecroft stood in 2016 against Quayle. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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