Cueey Lewis And The News Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) Absolutely unbelievable https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/ohr-report-recommends-creation-of-54-new-jobs-costing-3m/ A report into government's Office of Human Resources is recommending increasing the body's headcount by almost 50 by adding another 54 roles to the existing 117. A complete civil service wet dream! Service users also provided feedback, with some stating they found it difficult to have confidential conversations without the content of those conversations returning to government, while there was also a variance in the perceived quality of advice received from OHR. Edited December 14, 2023 by Cueey Lewis And The News 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) Stu will be along shortly to explain in depth why they will all be needed. He's just being briefed now on what to say. Edited December 14, 2023 by Non-Believer Extra bit 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-in-man Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) The HR department is a farce. They get in the way of everything! They dictate and over-rule even the simplest of positions to be filled. They think they are better than the people actually doing the interviewing and hiring - when there job is to ensure the paperwork is done for those selected. Ideas well above their station - all of them. No, I am not bitter because I never got a job. I have had plenty of experience trying to hire the right person for the job, only to be thwarted by HR because someone does not understand the what a position involves. Edited December 14, 2023 by x-in-man 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english zloty Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Stu will be along shortly to explain in depth why they will all be needed. He's just being briefed now on what to say. he might be a bit late, the Baroole Suite will be serviing Christmam lunch for all the hardworking MHKs who attend the briefing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 AFUERA! Surely this is one of the few aspects of Govt that can and might be better outsourced to the private sector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cueey Lewis And The News Posted December 14, 2023 Author Share Posted December 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, x-in-man said: The HR department is a farce. A HR Department of nearly 170 people being proposed for an island this size is a complete farce. It’s literally ridiculous. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, english zloty said: he might be a bit late, the Baroole Suite will be serviing Christmam lunch for all the hardworking MHKs who attend the briefing He'll have gravy stains all over his nice shirt and tie then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-in-man Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Shake me up Judy said: He'll have gravy stains all over his nice shirt and tie then. He is well practiced at handling the gravy boat now. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Cueey Lewis And The News said: A HR Department of nearly 170 people being proposed for an island this size is a complete farce. It’s literally ridiculous. But it takes that many to manage all the admin around sick leave, bullying accusations, and the enforcement of petty and unnecessary bureaucracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Crazy. They consulted senior civil servants and trade unions. Did they consult any taxpayers? Get your MHK to knock it on the head. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 "How Big Should Your HR Team Be? Check Out Our Calculator & Find Out" "You can use a ratio, which should be proportional to the employees in a company. For example, a company with 100 employees may have a team of five HR professionals, while a company with 1,000 employees may have a team of 10-15 HR professionals. Keep in mind that if your HR team is too small, they will be overwhelmed and unable to keep up with the demands." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 23 minutes ago, woolley said: Crazy. They consulted senior civil servants and trade unions. Did they consult any taxpayers? Get your MHK to knock it on the head. Thats highly unlikely. They would have a massive Tynpotwald debate, and after an hour and a half, vote it through. It is estimated cost is at £3m, does anyone seriously think it’s going to be £3million? You could recruit 54 extra staff, and then someone will turn round and say we need more. They seem to think as Grant Thornton have produced a report, it’s gospel, and needs implemented immediately. Meanwhile, frontline services are deprived of resources and staff. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 So there's a lack of clarity over its purpose, vision, strategy and operating plan, and it does not deliver any strategic value. Suppose you could copy and paste the same conclusion for many departments. There are 117 of them in HR not delivering any strategic value, for goodness' sake. If things are so bad, perhaps the review should have been into the performance of the incumbents with a view to streamlining and making savings. Doesn't sound as though a lot of what they do would be missed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 25 minutes ago, Two-lane said: "How Big Should Your HR Team Be? Check Out Our Calculator & Find Out" "You can use a ratio, which should be proportional to the employees in a company. For example, a company with 100 employees may have a team of five HR professionals, while a company with 1,000 employees may have a team of 10-15 HR professionals. Keep in mind that if your HR team is too small, they will be overwhelmed and unable to keep up with the demands." Sponsored by the Human Resources Professionals Association, no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 The above quote is from https://stratus.hr/resources/hr-team-size This is from https://www.forbes.com/advisor/business/hr-statistics-trends/ : "There should be 1.4 HR staff for every 100 employees Many companies have too many people in their HR department, as the average HR-to-staff ratio is 2.57.[1] The average ratio goes up to 3.4 for small organizations, then down to 1.22 and 1.03 for medium and large organizations, respectively." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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