Living hope new church

[Gladys]

8 minutes ago, The Phantom said:

Does 20% get you heaven's 'Speedy Boarding Pass'?

And free baggage. 

[The Phantom]

3 minutes ago, Gladys said:

And free baggage. 

That's nice of them.  I imagine they'd have quite a bit. 

[La_Dolce_Vita]

9 hours ago, HiVibes said:

For all shitty hand in the air pop derivative sing alongs, the actual dogma of Living Hope is far more regressive than the other churches, hardly modern, you certainly won't find a woman in a position of power. 

You say 'regressive' but the bible does seem to point out how women cannot be church leaders.  They can't minister to men but only teach to woman and children.  They have a different role in society.

You might call it regressive but if it's thought to be the word of God then it's morally correct. 

I think it's weird how woman are ministers when the bible seems to say it is wrong. 

[Fred the shred]

The Church of England now push direct debits and have card machines on the door as well as open, shame oriented, collection plates but it does not ask for a percentage although frequently begging talks at services.   The way it is going with all religions it is money first religion later they have forgotten the parable of the widows mite apparently.   

[WTF]

13 hours ago, La_Dolce_Vita said:

but if it's thought to be the word of God then it's morally correct. 

 

who decided gods morals are correct ?

[Gladys]

11 minutes ago, WTF said:

who decided gods morals are correct ?

God, of course, but you have to be tuned into Him to get the messages. 

[Jarndyce]

17 hours ago, The Phantom said:

17 hours ago, Gladys said:

And free baggage. 

That's nice of them.  I imagine they'd have quite a bit

My understanding is that you can’t take it with you…

[HiVibes]

13 hours ago, La_Dolce_Vita said:

You say 'regressive' but the bible does seem to point out how women cannot be church leaders.  They can't minister to men but only teach to woman and children.  They have a different role in society.

You might call it regressive but if it's thought to be the word of God then it's morally correct. 

I think it's weird how woman are ministers when the bible seems to say it is wrong. 

You are obviously a biblical literalist, which neither mainstream UK christianity nor Living Hope are, though the latter will tell you they are.

[Capt_Mainwaring]

19 minutes ago, HiVibes said:

You are obviously a biblical literalist, which neither mainstream UK christianity nor Living Hope are, though the latter will tell you they are.

Or they're just pointing out the hypocrisy of religion in general?

Edited 10 hours ago by Capt_Mainwaring

[WTF]

1 hour ago, Gladys said:

God, of course, but you have to be tuned into Him to get the messages. 

apparently that can be quite expensive.

[Gladys]

9 minutes ago, WTF said:

apparently that can be quite expensive.

Oh yes, these things don't come free you know. 

[HiVibes]

1 hour ago, Capt_Mainwaring said:

Or they're just pointing out the hypocrisy of religion in general?

Did it need pointing out?

[La_Dolce_Vita]

4 hours ago, WTF said:

who decided gods morals are correct ?

From the perspective of Christians, Christians think that the God of the bibles morals are correct. Or rather, his commandments should be obeyed.

 

[La_Dolce_Vita]

4 hours ago, HiVibes said:

You are obviously a biblical literalist, which neither mainstream UK christianity nor Living Hope are, though the latter will tell you they are.

I am not a biblical literalist.  I'm an atheist.  But a Christian who is literalist is just as much of a Christian who is not.  There is no true Christian.  Yet I would have that those who adhere more closely to the bible probably have better claim to be Christian, as what else do they have except the Bible. If they disregard parts of it, even because of modern societal morals then that's seems to be cherry-picking.

But almost all Christian do cherry-picking, as otherwise we would still have slavery in society and consider it acceptable

[Vaaish]

4 hours ago, Gladys said:

God, of course, but you have to be tuned into Him to get the messages. 

‘Him’? 😉