Largest dispensing pharmacy on the island - run by robots

[Two-lane]

22 minutes ago, english zloty said:

I heard months ago that the idea revolves around restocking of vending machines. Whereby a unique code will unlock your compartment, which you can visit at anytime once you are informed it’s ready. 

Some of the people I have seen queuing for prescriptions have trouble remembering their date of birth, let alone a unique code.

[And while I am here and in a bad mood - I recently changed the password for a Lloyds bank account on the Internet. So I did the right thing - used a password generator creating random characters, various case and a few strange symbols. The website rejected it, saying "your password contains personal information". I made multiple attempts, all failed, with the same message. I phoned, got the AI bot, got past that and talked to a human. Eventually the reason was found to be - for special characters only "&" and "@" accepted. Only English words accepted - i.e. dictionary words! And it is case insensitive. So I used the password "manxforumisforidiots". Worked a treat]

[Barlow]

6 minutes ago, Two-lane said:

Eventually the reason was found to be - for special characters only "&" and "@" accepted. Only English words accepted - i.e. dictionary words! And it is case insensitive. So I used the password "manxforumisforidiots". Worked a treat]

& and @ are generally NOT accepted in passwords There are another 30 or so. *

The password system is totally shit and one day we will all look back and laugh at it, like we laugh at the days when it was totally cool to have a mobile phone literally bigger and heavier than a house brick.

 

*but many sites allow all so-called fucking special characters

Edited December 27, 2023 by Barlow

[Kopek]

7 minutes ago, Two-lane said:

Some of the people I have seen queuing for prescriptions have trouble remembering their date of birth, let alone a unique code.

So, that was you stood behind me!!!

[HeliX]

10 minutes ago, Barlow said:

& and @ are generally NOT accepted in passwords There are another 30 or so. *

The password system is totally shit and one day we will all look back and laugh at it, like we laugh at the days when it was totally cool to have a mobile phone literally bigger and heavier than a house brick.

 

*but many sites allow all so-called fucking special characters

Any site that doesn't allow all special chars or has a maximum length lower than say 60 or so should be regarded with suspicion.

[Two-lane]

5 minutes ago, Barlow said:

The password system is totally shit and one day we will all look back and laugh at it, like we laugh at the days when it was totally cool to have a mobile phone literally bigger and heavier than a house brick.

To continue the thread deviation - the reason I had to change the  bank password was because I (as an ex computer professional and all that stuff) had not realised that Firefox (and probably Chrome) may store the passwords you use for websites in encrypted form and display them as xxxxx - but there is an export option somewhere in the settings that will dump all the passwords in plain text. This is not really a worry for my desktops, but put me in panic mode because of my laptop. It is necessary to use a secure master password for the browser that has to be input each time you start the browser.

I suppose you are all going to say "Well, everybody knows that". I can guarantee that anybody queuing for a prescription does not.

[Max Power]

6 hours ago, CrazyDave said:

Are you aware of the current issues around recruiting in this are here, in the UK and further afield.

Have you seen how long it takes to get some basic medication on island for the last few years?  Family members who are on regular meds are constantly saying what a faff it is with errors at both the GP and the Pharmacy seeming a regular occurrence 

I haven't had any issues anywhere really, the odd time that something oddball needs ordering, like industrial strength Viagra, but usually no problem.

Where does this leave pharmacists, will they be redeployed as some sort of consultants, or dealing with minor illnesses etc?

[Kopek]

2 hours ago, HeliX said:

Any site that doesn't allow all special chars

Oh, I think MF allows very 'special characters' !

You and I excluded of course!!!

[Jarndyce]

16 hours ago, Mouthpiece said:

a single supply chain for Manx Care and the retail pharmacies will reduce costs and improve service. 

Leaving aside the “using the island as a test bed for a world-beating idea” aspect of it: 

a single supply chain is also potentially a single point of failure;

and, if you’re running a wholesale pharmaceutical supply company on the island - but also dispensing directly to patients - then your potential wholesale customers are also your business rivals regarding your dispensing business.

However, I expect all this was considered in the business plan…

[mayhem]

What I fail to understand is the whole repeat prescription nonsense for long term / whole of life conditions i.e. blood pressure meds etc. 

Surely a subscription service direct to your door (with a semi annual review) eleminates a massive amount of costs at the GP and the dispensing level.  Would tie in nicely with automated picking and packing...

[Dirty Buggane]

17 hours ago, Mouthpiece said:

I’m sure the multi millionaire serial entrepreneur Roger Raatgever doesn’t really need lessons in how to found a business and will be well aware of all those risks. If they’re successful a single supply chain for Manx Care and the retail pharmacies will reduce costs and improve service. 

The only glitch in this otherwise world beating system is, IF the boat don't go the drug's (legal or illegal) don't come. And if I am not wrong they  are already in a central warehouse for supply to various Chemists. All it is doing is delivering to your door, still the same old fuck ups. Wrong script, wrong person, non reordered, so nothing new.

[Kopek]

We're supposed to be using Pass Keys now, hopefully Firefox will sort them out for me!

[Two-lane]

1 hour ago, Kopek said:

We're supposed to be using Pass Keys now, hopefully Firefox will sort them out for me!

Pass Key: " a fingerprint, a face scan or a screen lock PIN."

So I use the index finger of my left hand to find out if something is hot - and it is - and that's fingerprint recognition gone for a few days (or longer, if I grow a different fingerprint).

Or I have to have a shave before logging in - that's a pain.

Or a 4-digit number - that's supposed to be secure?

[Years ago I used a brute force algorithm to crack a 6 or 8 character password (random letters, both cases, plus digits) in somewhere between 24 and 48 hours. That was on a single-core cpu, probably more like 4 MHz than 4GHz. Every man and his dog is using 16-core cpus at 4GHz these days. If a brute force attack is possible, a 4 digit code won't be much protection - but then again, I don't see how a brute force attack could be made. Yet.]

[Andy Onchan]

On 12/27/2023 at 3:35 PM, Happier diner said:

A significant amount of man power and time!

Always amazes me how it can take so long to put a few tablets into a bag. Unless they are struggling to read the doctors writing.

Doesn't each prescription have to go through 3 x hands before being bagged and sealed? 

[HeliX]

2 hours ago, Two-lane said:

Pass Key: " a fingerprint, a face scan or a screen lock PIN."

So I use the index finger of my left hand to find out if something is hot - and it is - and that's fingerprint recognition gone for a few days (or longer, if I grow a different fingerprint).

Or I have to have a shave before logging in - that's a pain.

Or a 4-digit number - that's supposed to be secure?

[Years ago I used a brute force algorithm to crack a 6 or 8 character password (random letters, both cases, plus digits) in somewhere between 24 and 48 hours. That was on a single-core cpu, probably more like 4 MHz than 4GHz. Every man and his dog is using 16-core cpus at 4GHz these days. If a brute force attack is possible, a 4 digit code won't be much protection - but then again, I don't see how a brute force attack could be made. Yet.]

You can add multiple fingers for fingerprint recognition. Never had a problem with any state of shave for facial recognition.

I'd recommend minimum 6 digits for passkeys, but brute force is defeated more by rate limits than extra complexity these days. My desktop can do in the region of 52,134 million hashes per second for common hash types.

[littlebushy]

Handy to know...I'll have a few grams of common hash please.

Edited December 28, 2023 by littlebushy
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