Fred the shred Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 If Dave is missing the forum and banter I can recommend Isle of Man News and Politics or the comments on Isle of Man Today both are bankrupt of any sensible discussion and the remarks on IOM Today are unbelievable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarley Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 11 minutes ago, Fred the shred said: It is very easy to judge and sometimes circumstances make for difficult decisions, if for instance you took someone with a Blue Badge to the doctors and the doctor gave them a prescription would you then drive them home and then venture out again to visit the chemist to have the prescription made up or escort them back to the car and drive to the nearest chemist and pop in to get the prescription serviced. Things are not always black and white . In this scenario the best course of action would be to go to the chemist with the holder of the Blue Badge still in the car, and park in a NON disabled parking spot while you nip into the chemist, leaving the disabled person in the car. It's not rocket science. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilly Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 4 minutes ago, Fred the shred said: It is very easy to judge and sometimes circumstances make for difficult decisions, if for instance you took someone with a Blue Badge to the doctors and the doctor gave them a prescription would you then drive them home and then venture out again to visit the chemist to have the prescription made up or escort them back to the car and drive to the nearest chemist and pop in to get the prescription serviced. Things are not always black and white . No, l would park the car in normal space and walk. It is possible to sign for someone else's prescription. However, l respect your comment that things are not always what they seem! There are often situations where you would not wish to leave a person for a longer period of time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 So you get to the chemist and there is a blue badge space outside the door or one 15 metres down the road. You are saying that you would use the blue badge space so you could nip into the chemist. Sounds like other people and the way they say I am doing the disabled persons shopping so I should use the badge even if they are sat at home. Which a lot of people say when challenged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilly Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 minutes ago, Dirty Buggane said: So you get to the chemist and there is a blue badge space outside the door or one 15 metres down the road. You are saying that you would use the blue badge space so you could nip into the chemist. Sounds like other people and the way they say I am doing the disabled persons shopping so I should use the badge even if they are sat at home. Which a lot of people say when challenged. Yes, l have heard thise excuses too. They are just lazy if they take another person's Blue badge and use it in such circumstances. I also think it against the rules of the Blue Badge Scheme. Its not there to aid the person's relatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 To me it’s perfectly simple. The blue badge belongs to the person, not the car, and is so the person can have a wider (therefore more accessible) space closer to wherever they’re going. If they’re staying in the car park in a normal space. If they’re not in the car at all you shouldn’t be using the badge. I used one once, taking my elderly aunt to lunch. Will I now get a bunch of abuse like CrazyDave did for saying that? (Although it was across, so perhaps not?) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, wrighty said: I used one once, taking my elderly aunt to lunch. Will I now get a bunch of abuse like CrazyDave did for saying that? You don't have a long history through multiple accounts of making stuff up, arrogantly dismissing any point of view other than your own, being wrong about everything and sending abusive personal messages, so no, probably not. With blue badges anyone using one knows the rules and knows if they're using it correctly. As with everything, a minority will take the piss. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilly Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, wrighty said: To me it’s perfectly simple. The blue badge belongs to the person, not the car, and is so the person can have a wider (therefore more accessible) space closer to wherever they’re going. If they’re staying in the car park in a normal space. If they’re not in the car at all you shouldn’t be using the badge. I used one once, taking my elderly aunt to lunch. Will I now get a bunch of abuse like CrazyDave did for saying that? (Although it was across, so perhaps not?) Yes, you are totally correct. That's exactly what the Blue Badge is for. No, you most certainly will not get any abuse from me. I was pleasantly surprised to not receive any abuse myself after my admission of using a disabled parking space without a Blue Badge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiVibes Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Zarley said: In this scenario the best course of action would be to go to the chemist with the holder of the Blue Badge still in the car, and park in a NON disabled parking spot while you nip into the chemist, leaving the disabled person in the car. It's not rocket science. But what if... you get sent from various branches of the then Lloyds due to them not having stock of the item, each time having to park nowhere near and then finally end up driving to boots in Douglas because only they have stock and your now agitated disabled passenger who needs to have those meds at a certain time of day has to wait even longer as you yet again don't use the blue badge which is there to help them. Using a blue badge to help them get what they need in an urgent situation is not an abuse and its pretty silly to argue it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorik Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 11 minutes ago, HiVibes said: But what if... you get sent from various branches of the then Lloyds due to them not having stock of the item, each time having to park nowhere near and then finally end up driving to boots in Douglas because only they have stock and your now agitated disabled passenger who needs to have those meds at a certain time of day has to wait even longer as you yet again don't use the blue badge which is there to help them. Using a blue badge to help them get what they need in an urgent situation is not an abuse and its pretty silly to argue it is. I think you're taking whataboutery to an absurd extent. If you're fit and able, M&S or Chester St isn't a huge slog from Boots. If it's so urgent you won't balk at paying for parking, leaving the disabled spaces for those who genuinely need them. And don't get me started on taxi drivers using the Victoria St bays as an overflow rank - I know from experience that "I'll move if somebody needs the space" is a load of bollocks 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilly Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 4 minutes ago, HiVibes said: But what if... you get sent from various branches of the then Lloyds due to them not having stock of the item, each time having to park nowhere near and then finally end up driving to boots in Douglas because only they have stock and your now agitated disabled passenger who needs to have those meds at a certain time of day has to wait even longer as you yet again don't use the blue badge which is there to help them. Using a blue badge to help them get what they need in an urgent situation is not an abuse and its pretty silly to argue it is. 1 hour ago, Zarley said: In this scenario the best course of action would be to go to the chemist with the holder of the Blue Badge still in the car, and park in a NON disabled parking spot while you nip into the chemist, leaving the disabled person in the car. It's not rocket science. I think if a situation is urgent, no one would object to the Blue Badge used in those circumstances. If a ticket was issued you can appeal. Zarley has made a valid point about use of a Blue Badge when it shouldn't be used and given an alternative suggestion of what the person accompanying the blue badge holder may do instead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 When my mother was in her 80s and early 90s, in poor health, using a walking stick, whenever I visited her in England I would take her to the supermarket - where she would not let me park in the disabled spaces, because she was not disabled. She also refused to go into and old people's home, because she was not old. I was not there at the moment she died, but I would guess her last words were "I'm not old". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, Two-lane said: She also refused to go into and old people's home, because she was not old. Sometimes you've got to just drop them off....pretend it's a cafe or something like we did. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
display name Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, Albert Tatlock said: Man...and there was me thinking you were into modern day funk. Another illusion destroyed. Not so much Bootsy,more Albert,neither of which are modern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarley Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 23 hours ago, HiVibes said: But what if... you get sent from various branches of the then Lloyds due to them not having stock of the item, each time having to park nowhere near and then finally end up driving to boots in Douglas because only they have stock and your now agitated disabled passenger who needs to have those meds at a certain time of day has to wait even longer as you yet again don't use the blue badge which is there to help them. Using a blue badge to help them get what they need in an urgent situation is not an abuse and its pretty silly to argue it is. But what if... All the non-disabled parking spaces are taken by alien space ships? Eh? What then? It's about as likely to happen as your convoluted scenario. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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