Non-Believer Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 hour ago, Derek Flint said: Yes I am serious. The place desperately needs a disruptor that can carry people with them We have had a number of people in the past who got in on a ticket of promised disruption. They are quickly assimilated and brought to heel, even allegedly receiving warnings about boat-rocking during their inductions, such as the primarily female MLC intake of a couple of years back. The Machine and its status quo reign supreme. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 5 hours ago, cissolt said: Seems that they have a frequent overspend of 2+ million, some of it hidden by drawing from tcb fund in previous years. £34 million total employee costs 22/23. 85+% of total budget. All of the recent armed activity seems to be aimed at stoking fear to justify job increases. I haven't seen a policeman on patrol in onchan for 25 years. They closed the local live-in stations and sequestered the cops into towns where all they do is jump in a car or a van and 'patrol'. The only time you see them in the flesh is TT fortnight or walking to or from a coffee/bacon butty shop. At one time they were a part of the community they policed and were a visible deterrent and reassurance. Now, most interactions with the general public are for traffic or tafficking. Oh and the cringe social media posts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 On 1/27/2024 at 8:54 PM, Non-Believer said: We need formed opposition politics, to provide scrutiny and criticism. During projects, for instance, not just the hand-wringing at the overspent end. We have a civil service running amok with no political control or examination of it. I used to be dead against it on the grounds of cost in such a small jurisdiction. Things were pretty good then, but now I'm coming around to it. Seems that the cost of it can't be any worse than the appalling waste and largesse we see currently with seemingly no redress or accountability. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 12 hours ago, 2112 said: It’s not just the civil servants heading the departments that need to be responsible and be accountable, but perhaps the politicians as well. I can see the next financial year being worse than this year, as the Department will want their priorities enforced - Sea Terminal Customs etc. No doubt we will go from people strolling on and off to ferry to a new regime where you have to show identity, unpack your luggage, go through a full-body scanner and have your face photographed for facial recognition. All this will cost money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 .... and yet, what percentage of Pax will be smuggling drugs? ....and what percentage of them will not be ppicked up by the Police currently??? Waste? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/doi-claims-overspend-is-down-to-paying-other-departments-energy-costs/ That's a hell of an electricity bill. Presumably they paid the energy bills last year as well. There is no urgency to save energy if departments are not paying their own bills. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 8 minutes ago, Moghrey Mie said: https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/doi-claims-overspend-is-down-to-paying-other-departments-energy-costs/ That's a hell of an electricity bill. Presumably they paid the energy bills last year as well. There is no urgency to save energy if departments are not paying their own bills. And indeed why does the structure exist that DOI pays the bills of other departments? Who the hell sets these arrangements up? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebushy Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 But that's not the energy bill. The 5.6 million is to cover the increase in the energy bill! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 9 hours ago, littlebushy said: But that's not the energy bill. The 5.6 million is to cover the increase in the energy bill! Seems a convenient way of explaining a large overspend ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 10 hours ago, Non-Believer said: And indeed why does the structure exist that DOI pays the bills of other departments? Who the hell sets these arrangements up? Probably find the buildings are in their name and DOi responsible for maintenance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 On 1/28/2024 at 10:12 PM, Albert Tatlock said: God help the UK if it gets a celebrity Prime Minister like Trump. Johnson was kind of that and bad enough. The fact people are even suggesting this, points to politics in the UK reaching yet another new low. Bozo's legacy from today's Grauniad: UK perceived as more corrupt, falling to its lowest score on global index Transparency International chief says fall to 20th place should act as ‘a wake-up call’ for the government https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/30/uk-perceived-as-more-corrupt-lowest-score-global-index-transparency-international Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 16 hours ago, woolley said: I used to be dead against it on the grounds of cost in such a small jurisdiction. Things were pretty good then, but now I'm coming around to it. Seems that the cost of it can't be any worse than the appalling waste and largesse we see currently with seemingly no redress or accountability. A classic example is the Manxman turns up at it's home port of Douglas to find the Edward pier hasn't been upgraded to take it! Now someone or some committee is responsible for that total lack of joined-up thinking but the silence from Tynwald is deafening. They shouldn't be allowed to get away with it. But they will... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english zloty Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 6 hours ago, asitis said: Seems a convenient way of explaining a large overspend ! No science behind made up sums? Promotion beckons for someone. This is the way. Markwell, Crookall and the Wedding Cake are like Blackpool illuminations at a weekend. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 17 hours ago, Moghrey Mie said: https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/doi-claims-overspend-is-down-to-paying-other-departments-energy-costs/ That's a hell of an electricity bill. Presumably they paid the energy bills last year as well. There is no urgency to save energy if departments are not paying their own bills. Manxcare raised an urgent issue in their last board meeting due to lack of maintenance by the DOI. Where is the DOI spending it's money? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 34 minutes ago, cissolt said: Manxcare raised an urgent issue in their last board meeting due to lack of maintenance by the DOI. Where is the DOI spending it's money? "Maintenance! Maintenance!! Go and wash your mouth out with soap and water. We'll have none of your filthy talk at the DoI". I've long suspected there's lots of transferring of money internally at the DoI and with various special funds to cover up all sorts of financial embarrassments such as the Prom and the Great Shed of Liverpool. General standards of financial monitoring are so low and civil service collusion so universal, that all sorts of shenanigans could be happening and never discovered. But it means all sorts of useful stuff that the government should be doing as a matter of course will be ignored at great eventual cost. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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