When Skies Are Grey Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 Whilst this news story is undoubtedly tragic I think that this sets a dangerous precedent....just my humble opinion but where on earth do you draw the line on this form of censorship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speckled Frost Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicest...ire/3936597.stm I don't believe for one minute this Manhunt game was the real reason for a kid killing his friend. He was obviously unstable anyway. Anyone played it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 Merged the two threads for clarity. Hope you don't mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speckled Frost Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 Have you just combined the two topics Ans? Somewhat disconcerted. Quick work if you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speckled Frost Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 Ahead of me again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripsaw Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 The game's makers will say "Well we put an 18 certificate on it" The murderers parents will say "boys will be boys, he was such a nice child normally (when he emerged from his bedroom)" The retailers will say "We have moral responsibilities to our customers" Other game players will say "We are being treated like babies, not allowed to play our games". In six months time when all this is forgotten, we all start again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Skies Are Grey Posted July 29, 2004 Author Share Posted July 29, 2004 great minds..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speckled Frost Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 So, what are you saying Ripsaw - that we just don't learn from it or that this is all just all a mountain made out of a mole hill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripsaw Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 So, what are you saying Ripsaw - that we just don't learn from it or that this is all just all a mountain made out of a mole hill? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What is to learn? Will the games stop being made? Will 8 year olds stop playing them? Will fruitcakes who cannot differentialte between reality and fiction suddenly become upright members of the community? As a parent I can sympathise with the murdured boy's parents even though I can not grasp how they feel. Other than that, and a few (implied) well meaning soundbites and reactionary gestures, nothing will change, nothing at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Skies Are Grey Posted July 29, 2004 Author Share Posted July 29, 2004 Its just lazy journalism...video games are this generation's video nasties...i mean you can get I Spit on Grave, Cannibal Holocaust and the like from HMV these days! 20 years ago averyone said that these were going to cause widespread depravity in our society..... So where does this stop...ban Manhunt beacuse its violent; ban Soldier of Fortune beacuse of its graphic depiction of war; ban Top Spin because Tim Henman is xxxx at tennis...its just lunacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speckled Frost Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 I don't think anything needs to change and some parents could do a better job of keeping an eye on the games their children are playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 Wasn't the accused 17? If he can't differentiate between reality and a computer game at that age then there is something wrong. I don't really think it's a valid claim to be honest, unless of course he has some sort of mental illness that stops him knowing right from wrong. My sympathies go out to the victims family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 I remember reading a story in a newspaper about how in the 1950's the big thing undermining decency and breeding murderers. They passed some sort of law and everyone forgot about it. Also in Victorian times there was a big hoo-haa about "Penny Dreadful" novels doing the same thing. Society needs someone or something to blame - easier to blame Manhunt, Chucky, Marilyn Manson or 40 True Crime Stories for Boys, than to face up to the fact that as a society we can't raise every child to be a well-balanced, non-violent, non-screwed-up, adult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posters Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Society needs someone or something to blame - easier to blame Manhunt, Chucky, Marilyn Manson or 40 True Crime Stories for Boys, than to face up to the fact that as a society we can't raise every child to be a well-balanced, non-violent, non-screwed-up, adult. What utter rubish. Of course not every child can be raised properly, That doen't mean that such things aren't a contributory factor, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 An interesting development, and one that throws a whole new light on the subject... 03 August 2004 by Tim Green The story of the “Manhunt” murder case took another twist with the revelation that the game was present in the victim’s home, not the killer’s. Narinder Pooni, media services officer for Leicestershire Police, told MCV: “Apparently the game was found but it was in Stefan Pakeerah’s bedroom.” Pakeerah was murdered by his friend Warren Leblanc in February. While this fact does not in itself undermine the allegation made by Pakeerah’s mother and the Daily Mail that Leblanc was influenced by Manhunt, it does make the issue more complex. It also raises questions such as whether the 14 year old victim owned the game. And if so, who bought it for him? As for the link between Manhunt and the crime, the police are clear. Pooni said: “We haven’t connected the game with the murder and we’ve already made that statement, but some sections of the media chose to ignore it…the motive was robbery.” Shame on you slaves to media manipulation. (Apart from the ones with sense who dimissed the claims). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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