A fool and his money..... Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, Manxweegie said: Sounds like a perfectly valid question considering the Island operates a Work Permit system for non-Manx residents to work on the Island. I recall the difficulties I had of having a girlfriend move to the Island with me and she struggled like hell to ever get work, she moved back across in the end and me too. Many sectors are work permit exempt, and the sectors that aren't don't struggle importing people as far as I can see. There are tens of thousands of white, English speaking immigrants on this island. Blaming one Chinese fella for your girlfriend's inability to get a job just makes no sense at all without a racist agenda. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
display name Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 11 minutes ago, A fool and his money..... said: Well the only time I've ever seen anybody question someone's "qualifications" to live here following a court case is this one. Seemingly motivated by this gentleman being Chinese and not speaking English. Either a coincidence or racism. Nothing racist about it at all. A man who claims to not speak English,lies through his teeth and declares he owns his wife and that justifies slapping and kicking her doesn't deserve to be allowed to live here. Personally,I'd happily drop him overboard in the arctic ocean and claim he slipped on a wayward plant pot 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 4 minutes ago, display name said: Nothing racist about it at all. A man who claims to not speak English,lies through his teeth and declares he owns his wife and that justifies slapping and kicking her doesn't deserve to be allowed to live here. Personally,I'd happily drop him overboard in the arctic ocean and claim he slipped on a wayward plant pot Is this something you'd do with all lying wife beaters or just the ones that don't speak English? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
display name Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, A fool and his money..... said: Is this something you'd do with all lying wife beaters or just the ones that don't speak English? Why,are you planning on taking it up as a hobby? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, display name said: Why,are you planning on taking it up as a hobby? Would you be interested if I did? I'm white and speak English, so I suspect you wouldn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
display name Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, A fool and his money..... said: Would you be interested if I did? I'm white and speak English, so I suspect you wouldn't. Can't you learn Mandarin first? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 4 hours ago, A fool and his money..... said: Nice to see racism is still alive and well on MF. Just for clarity snowflake - speaking the truth does not relate to being racist. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Runner Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 5 hours ago, Omobono said: story in this weeks paper regarding a chinese citizen beating up his wife , when arrested could not speak or write english , work permit ? right to live here ? and how much will it cost us to deport him back to China all the legals and who is paying , any immigration experts know the answers on the face of it he wouldn't qualify to get into the UK Mr Yang had the right balancing Ying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Was he married to Mrs Yang? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 3 hours ago, A fool and his money..... said: I don't believe racism requires violence. This gentleman has been treated unfairly by the OP. Hundreds of people not from here are convicted through the courts each year without them questioning their qualifications to be here. Oh I think you'll find that there are questions raised on MF whenever someone with a hint of a Funny Foreign Name appears in the Courts. Obviously if he and his wife were here and working illegally, then it's straightforward and investigation and prosecution needs to take place of their employer(s). But if they are here on an ICT Visa, as piebaps helpfully linked to, then we need to be looking at these. These are described as enabling "multinational employers to transfer their existing employees from outside the EEA to their Isle of Man branch for training purposes or to fill a specific vacancy". Which sounds well and good and you imagine it covering international high-flyers and technical specialists. But that doesn't really sound like the case with Mr Yang, there's no mention of an employer for example. If he was valuable enough to be transferred as an existing employee, you think there would be involvement. If the apparent intention of these visas is being abused and it is being used as a backdoor route to bring in low-paid, exploited workers and their families, then it is unfair on all those trying to get in through more rigorous routes and to those effectively being people trafficked. And of course it goes against all that talk of attracting high-paid newcomers to the island bringing their skills and involvement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 6 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: Oh I think you'll find that there are questions raised on MF whenever someone with a hint of a Funny Foreign Name appears in the Courts. Obviously if he and his wife were here and working illegally, then it's straightforward and investigation and prosecution needs to take place of their employer(s). But if they are here on an ICT Visa, as piebaps helpfully linked to, then we need to be looking at these. These are described as enabling "multinational employers to transfer their existing employees from outside the EEA to their Isle of Man branch for training purposes or to fill a specific vacancy". Which sounds well and good and you imagine it covering international high-flyers and technical specialists. But that doesn't really sound like the case with Mr Yang, there's no mention of an employer for example. If he was valuable enough to be transferred as an existing employee, you think there would be involvement. If the apparent intention of these visas is being abused and it is being used as a backdoor route to bring in low-paid, exploited workers and their families, then it is unfair on all those trying to get in through more rigorous routes and to those effectively being people trafficked. And of course it goes against all that talk of attracting high-paid newcomers to the island bringing their skills and involvement. A walk down Strand street with your ears wide open will reveal that we over run with such people. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Hmmm if you read the article their workplace was on Victoria Road. Doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure out the work place. There's been enough about the site in the news 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, Passing Time said: Just for clarity snowflake - speaking the truth does not relate to being racist. Just for clarity gammon. The truth is we are an island of immigrants, tens of thousands of them, to single out one because he's Chinese is pure racism. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 34 minutes ago, finlo said: A walk down Strand street with your ears wide open will reveal that we over run with such people. If you go to Spain on holiday, do you speak Spanish as you walk in the town??? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah 01 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) 39 minutes ago, finlo said: A walk down Strand street with your ears wide open will reveal that we over run with such people. I have to agree. The perceived number of (obvious) immigrants since the end of the CV fiasco has risen beyond belief as an hour in Tesco or just 10 minutes loitering (without intent) on Strand Street will reveal to any bystander. The question I repeatedly ask myself is 'what or who (in terms of employment) brought you here and how are you supporting you and your family?'. It would seem that the hospital is one such employer bringing in a number of extra-UK workers but in such numbers as seem apparent? There's also no absence of unidentified (to me, at least) languages from more questionable European origins as well. 15 minutes ago, A fool and his money..... said: to single out one because he's Chinese is pure racism. You have a rather perverse view of the meaning of racism but seems to suit your apparent world-view. Edited February 2 by Utah 01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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