quilp Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 The Helmut called it deliberate, not NB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDave Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) 5 hours ago, Omobono said: Makes you wonder why government (DOI) have just spent millions constructing a new vehicle test centre when they dont appear to be able to fully staff it , motor trade and motorists and waiting ages for vehicle and driving tests , some Manx drivers are only clocking up 5000 miles a year ,if we are going to have vehicle testing then lets link it to an annual service and safety check that can be carried out by an approved garage , instead of involving the sprawling waste from the dead hand of government There is currently very little wait for a Manx vehicle test. 4 hours ago, doc.fixit said: have you tried to get an LED rear light for a quashqai for instance? If it’s an LED light, then your car will tell you that it is out and there is no excuse for driving it. Edited March 3 by CrazyDave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 3 hours ago, quilp said: The Helmut called it deliberate, not NB. Yes true. Comment was meant for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 9 hours ago, Happier diner said: What is their motivation for doing this? saving electricity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Runner Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Automatic lights are the main cause. You get out of the habit of turning your lights on. No excuse but it is an issue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampsterkahn Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Mechanical defects as a cause of accidents are relatively unusual 2- 3 % ,but this figure is most inaccurate as it fails to include the most common, serious and consistent problem which is failure of that nut holding the steering wheel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-in-man Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 hour ago, Blade Runner said: Automatic lights are the main cause. You get out of the habit of turning your lights on. No excuse but it is an issue Car dashboards never used to light up unless the headlights were on - most do now which also does not help. The handbook tells you if the lights are on or not by telling you about a handy little icon on the dash display. This just being aware of surroundings. If it's foggy you should think 'might need my fogs on - they don't come on unless I have the lights on - switch lights on and be prepared. I could also use my wipers now and then as the screen will be wet and misty'. The best one is - 'it's foggy, I have a silver car, I have sidelights on - what's the problem?' If it's raining you should be thinking, - 'might want my lights on, the rear ones don't come on with the DRLs - switch lights on' Same goes for 'it's a straight bit of road with no bends or corners for miles - must park my Fiesta/Clio/Pug/Nissan Jizz on its roof'. ..and 'it's an unlimited road, but it's full of ice and snow, let's post of Faceache about the drivers doing 40 and holding me up'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampsterkahn Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 minute ago, x-in-man said: Car dashboards never used to light up unless the headlights were on - most do now which also does not help. The handbook tells you if the lights are on or not by telling you about a handy little icon on the dash display. This just being aware of surroundings. If it's foggy you should think 'might need my fogs on - they don't come on unless I have the lights on - switch lights on and be prepared. I could also use my wipers now and then as the screen will be wet and misty'. The best one is - 'it's foggy, I have a silver car, I have sidelights on - what's the problem?' Also, I suspect some drivers expect their automatic headlights to switch on in the sort of poor visibility ‘daylight fog’ we encounter on the mountain.It seems they don’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Colombe Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 13 hours ago, Non-Believer said: I see it virtually every day. What's the problem then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 30 minutes ago, hampsterkahn said: Mechanical defects as a cause of accidents are relatively unusual 2- 3 % ,but this figure is most inaccurate as it fails to include the most common, serious and consistent problem which is failure of that nut holding the steering wheel. Some mechanical defects may not always be the attributed cause of an accident, but they may indirectly cause the car not to handle or respond particularly well, such as steering geometry out of adjustment, weak dampers, poor quality tyres or brake components etc. Also things like poor headlights or adjustment. I remember driving a customer's car down Summerhill one day, at the bend opposite the Glen entrance, it just understeered and slid towards the wall. I didn't hit anything, but one look at the Kwang Tung budget tyres he'd had fitted answered the question he'd raised about poor handling. Another was complaining that his new car was unmanageable along the Groudle Road. We checked geometry and all was secure, and he was right. A quick switch from Goodyear Tyres to Bridgestone and the problem was solved! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 10 hours ago, CrazyDave said: There is currently very little wait for a Manx vehicle test. If it’s an LED light, then your car will tell you that it is out and there is no excuse for driving it. I don't disagree with you. I was saying that it was difficult to get one, I know because I just had to source one. Therefore the poster who said that the car should be held whilst the driver went into Douglas and bought a bulb was not a very good idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelmutX Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 10 hours ago, Happier diner said: I didn't say it didn't happen. You said deliberate though, sounds more like ignorance to me. No... deliberately.... worried about burning out a bulb mentality..... and thinking the earth is flat (still). Unaware that there are other road users.... and not caring.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDave Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 14 minutes ago, Max Power said: poor quality tyres This is a good point. Crap Tyres are an often overlooked safety issue. I am astounded that some of the stuff you can buy is even legal to sell. The difference between decent tyres and some of the cheap ones is huge, especially in the wet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 But, it still comes back to the driver. You should drive to the conditions which includes the condition of the car and its ancillaries such as tyres. i.e. the nut behind the wheel is the crucial component as someone just said.... but then.... I've only been driving for 60 years and involved with the motor trade and HGVs for at least 40. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 45 minutes ago, HelmutX said: worried about burning out a bulb mentality Not sure I have known anyone with that mentality TBH. I think it's more they dont realise. For some the reason the instruments light up on modern day cars when it's dark. Its makes you think the headlights are on. Often they are not and just the sidelights are on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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