HelmutX Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Well, now it is official.... developers do, in fact, wave brown envelopes to influence the civil service..... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 They are not brown envelopes, but payment to the national coffers to buy out the obligation to build affordable housing in any development. More to the point is where those funds go? Are they just swallowed up in the great maw of IOMG or are they isolated for affordable/social housing projects by IOMG? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelmutX Posted March 3 Author Share Posted March 3 1 minute ago, Gladys said: They are not brown envelopes, but payment to the national coffers to buy out the obligation to build affordable housing in any development. More to the point is where those funds go? Are they just swallowed up in the great maw of IOMG or are they isolated for affordable/social housing projects by IOMG? Sorry, BROWN ENVELOPES.... to buy their way out of contractual obligations.... cheaper than actually abiding by the contract no doubt. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDave Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 3 minutes ago, HelmutX said: Sorry, BROWN ENVELOPES.... to buy their way out of contractual obligations.... cheaper than actually abiding by the contract no doubt. Do you know what the implication of the phrase “brown envelope” actually is? Because this thread would suggest not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 14 minutes ago, HelmutX said: Well, now it is official.... developers do, in fact, wave brown envelopes to influence the civil service..... What’s Professor Dr David Ashford MHK MBE going to do about it? No doubt, huff and puff, then roll over. Maybe CM Cannan will tell him that he can’t go round upsetting IOMGs friends? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelmutX Posted March 3 Author Share Posted March 3 Just now, CrazyDave said: Do you know what the implication of the phrase “brown envelope” actually is? Because this thread would suggest not. In a word Dave - "OFF"! 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 8 minutes ago, Gladys said: They are not brown envelopes, but payment to the national coffers to buy out the obligation to build affordable housing in any development. More to the point is where those funds go? Are they just swallowed up in the great maw of IOMG or are they isolated for affordable/social housing projects by IOMG? Manx Care? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english zloty Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 9 minutes ago, Gladys said: They are not brown envelopes, but payment to the national coffers to buy out the obligation to build affordable housing in any development. More to the point is where those funds go? Are they just swallowed up in the great maw of IOMG or are they isolated for affordable/social housing projects by IOMG? Goes back into the housing fund. Generally to help pay off the enormous capital debts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDave Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 2 minutes ago, HelmutX said: In a word Dave - "OFF"! Nice intelligent response there. You are talking absolute rubbish. Since when were brown envelopes public knowledge and recorded in publicly available documents on the planning website? 🙄😂 Absolutely clueless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english zloty Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 embarrassing for Dave that MDC bought their way out of providing affordable housing with the Nurses Home. 😂😂 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelmutX Posted March 3 Author Share Posted March 3 16 minutes ago, CrazyDave said: Nice intelligent response there. You are talking absolute rubbish. Since when were brown envelopes public knowledge and recorded in publicly available documents on the planning website? 🙄😂 Absolutely clueless It's a payoff to hedge the investment for the developer... build the nice properties first then say, well, can't build the rest.... here's a quid to sweep it... never-ending-goalpost-changes. Legit? Initially, yes, but then contracts get renegotiated.... and normally, behind closed doors. OFF... giddyup.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 England has the same sort of thing. They either have to build a certain percentage of social housing in any development or pay a charge. Not sure how it works in detail, but it is part of the planning process, just as it is here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 hour ago, Gladys said: England has the same sort of thing. They either have to build a certain percentage of social housing in any development or pay a charge. Not sure how it works in detail, but it is part of the planning process, just as it is here. when government aka MDA are getting signed up for it on the land behind the nurses home Westmoreland road development then you know it really stinks of corruption ,according to their blurb there are no properties built there for sale anyway something not right about this , ? question please Mr Moorhouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 hour ago, Gladys said: England has the same sort of thing. They either have to build a certain percentage of social housing in any development or pay a charge. Not sure how it works in detail, but it is part of the planning process, just as it is here. well the charge should exceed the cost of actually building the so called affordable houses 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDave Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 10 minutes ago, Omobono said: when government aka MDA are getting signed up for it on the land behind the nurses home Westmoreland road development then you know it really stinks of corruption ,according to their blurb there are no properties built there for sale anyway something not right about this , ? question please Mr Moorhouse Question about what? Aren’t they going to be rental properties? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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