Fred the shred Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 In news today cruise ships are going to be hit with a 55% increase in fees when they visit. I don’t really know if cruise passengers add a lot to the economy but surely there are gains somewhere along the line. The Government seem so desperate for money atm it is making me nervous do they know something we are not a party to. First kids bus fare increases which proved very unpopular, then the doorbell fiasco the police asking for footage a government department reminding us that we should be paying 70 quid if we have footage outside our property , now trying to discourage people bringing tourists. What the H… is going on ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Alternatively, the government spends a lot of money on heritage sites etc aimed at tourists. Normally visitors pay the Steam Packet or an airline to get here upon which the government takes duties and stay in a hotel whose staff pay taxes. Even those that stay with family buy food and drink whilst they're here. But a cruise ship passenger, doesn't spend much time here - no Steam Packet fare, no airport duty, no accommodation costs. A small lunchtime snack, maybe a souvenir. Why shouldn't the government seek to maximise the revenue, otherwise why invite them? 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Is it to pay for the cruise ship berth? https://www.cruisemapper.com/news/3858-11m-cruise-ship-berth-built-douglas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 4 minutes ago, Two-lane said: Is it to pay for the cruise ship berth? https://www.cruisemapper.com/news/3858-11m-cruise-ship-berth-built-douglas Well a quote of £11M (albeit in 2018) is not going to happen when it's costing £6.6M+ for a dolphin at the end of the pier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-in-man Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Cruise ship passengers spend fuck-all here. The cruise companies charge them 200+ dollars for a trip up the mountain or a trip on a steam train. The cruise companies get a deal on seats sold for these trips and pay no where near what you or I pay for the same. The extra goes into their bank accounts. They set sail with all the stores and supplies needed - they might by some papers locally, but that's about it. The cruise terminal was never going to happen - EVER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollag Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Generally souvenir and coffee shops, taxis and coach owners are the ones who benefit from cruise visits, pubs and restaurants very little, side benefit, charity shops do fine from crew members as customers. People employed to promote the visits also benefit.🤔 There was a prog a few years back on Liners to Shetland, essentially saying the returns were poor considering the outlay spent on dredging, berthing upgrades etc, sounds like something our Gov would excell at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 I presume this relates to a 3FM story, which states: Cruise ships visiting the Island could be facing a huge 55 per cent rise in the fees they could end up paying. When Tynwald sits next week, members will be asked to approve regulations covering harbour fees and dues. The cap on harbour dues from cruise ships could rise 55 per cent from £3,213 to £5,000. The Department of Infrastructure says the increase reflects the rising costs of providing harbour services. Which doesn't on the face of it seem a lot, given the number of people who might be involved. In fact if you look at what is actually being presented to Tynwald it's actually a sliding scale and the £5,000 is the maximum: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercenary Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 If you're setting targets on visitor numbers cruise ships are the easy way to bump then up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDave Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 So how many last year paid the maximum allowable, and how many will actually see their fees go up this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 As long as IOMG is actively trying to attract cruise ships here, none of their climate change stuff has any credibility. Those things are massive polluters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 31 minutes ago, Amadeus said: As long as IOMG is actively trying to attract cruise ships here, none of their climate change stuff has any credibility. Those things are massive polluters. And of course, if we didn’t allow them to visit they’d all go out of business and the planet would be saved 🙄 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 15 minutes ago, wrighty said: And of course, if we didn’t allow them to visit they’d all go out of business and the planet would be saved 🙄 Which begs the question, why are the rest of the local population being fiscally leaned on to such a degree in the name of saving said planet? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiVibes Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 3 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Which begs the question, why are the rest of the local population being fiscally leaned on to such a degree in the name of saving said planet? The fiscal problems are the massive ball out from COVID which fucked over the young for the sake of the burdensome old and the cost of living crisis driven by the dependency on hydrocarbons. Climate change whether you understand it or not is not the problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 The MHK's, Sorry the civil service lackies and therefore the civil service are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 The fiscal problems here, are the Government and Civil Service the remaining taxpayers can't afford ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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