Gladys Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 3 minutes ago, Kevlar said: Do you have to do a professional protest in the IOM when protesting against a greedy multi billion pound industry? Perhaps spend £500 on some nice sign written placards or maybe get a mate to run them off on the laser printed in a nice typeface? Would the protest have been any more effective if people would have paid a little more attention to presentation? Yes, it lends credence to your position and that you are serious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 5 minutes ago, Kevlar said: Do you have to do a professional protest in the IOM when protesting against a greedy multi billion pound industry? Perhaps spend £500 on some nice sign written placards or maybe get a mate to run them off on the laser printed in a nice typeface? Would the protest have been any more effective if people would have paid a little more attention to presentation? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevlar Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 3 minutes ago, Gladys said: Yes, it lends credence to your position and that you are serious. Absolute nonsense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 7 minutes ago, Kevlar said: Absolute nonsense. OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 3 hours ago, littlebushy said: The worlds most polite army? A picture of Sgt Wilson & Pvt Godfrey came into my mind when I read that! 🤣 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Good on them for getting off the couch for something they feel strongly about: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cw5z6knx720o Thing is, and I never thought I'd say this, BM is right. People will always gamble and the IOM has one of the safest frameworks for it. The aim of the GSC is to protect players and keep gambling crime free. I do suspect well meaning individuals like them have limited visibility of this industry. An industry that is not without problems or flaws, but what do they actually want? People to stop gambling completely? Never gonna happen. The IOM to give up its one consistent economic success story for the last twenty plus years, at a time when we are indeed the best jurisdiction in our field worldwide and hoovering up business? Sure, but then give an alternative and also lay out how you will prevent any of the other jurisdictions from taking our place, because they will and are already trying. Some of the comments are also a bit ? "But Mr Craine said more needed to be done and called for the Gambling Supervision Commission (GSC) to use "their powers more" to encourage minimum stakes." So he wants minimum stakes (and people to gamble more) or maybe this is bad reporting and he meant stake limits? "Protestor Robert Riding said gambling was "accessible to everyone via their mobile phones", which meant it was "destructive worldwide"." IOM rules ringfence player money, ensure the offering is fair, and require operators to have tools such as stake limits and self exclusion available. That's more than many other jurisdictions require. Would he prefer people gamble with unlicensed operators? Because, again, they will always gamble. "Fellow campaigner Deborah Taubman said gambling sent the "wrong message to society" and left people "chasing after something that's not going to bring any satisfaction"." That's simply not the case. Gambling is a legitimate source of entertainment, just as going to the pub is, or doing any kind of sport to get your kicks. Just like a number of people who go to the pub will develop an issue with alcohol, a number of people will develop issues with gambling. Ultimately, it's an adult activity and we can only try and make it as safe as possible. Which the IOM is doing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 (edited) 5 hours ago, Amadeus said: Ultimately, it's an adult activity See, this point here is important. I can dislike the gambling industry all I want (and personally don't have anything to do with it), but the fact is its for adults to make their own choices. Like drinking, or smoking, or eating too many takeaways. I fucking hate puritans. Edited March 26 by TheTeapot 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Whether people like it or not, we are highly dependent still, on the finance sector of which Gaming is a big part ! Until we can find an alternative be careful what you wish for ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Colombe Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 18 hours ago, P.K. said: I recall a newspaper article that went: "To some people gambling is a disease. "That makes the Isle of Man a nasty little pool of infection in the Irish Sea" Although how you can have a pool in a sea was never explained... I'll have a go. A pool can be the collective amount of players' stakes in gambling or sweepstakes. A kitty if you like. In the sea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 hours ago, TheTeapot said: See, this point here is important. I can dislike the gambling industry all I want (and personally don't have anything to do with it), but the fact is its for adults to make their own choices. Like drinking, or smoking, or eating too many takeaways. I fucking hate puritans. Aye but it's still sad that the Island has gone cap in hand to such a cynical industry. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 27 minutes ago, La Colombe said: I'll have a go. A pool can be the collective amount of players' stakes in gambling or sweepstakes. A kitty if you like. In the sea. Kitty's hate the sea. A petri dish of infection floating in the Irish Sea. Would meet PK's needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Colombe Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 12 minutes ago, Declan said: A petri dish of infection Ah yes. Hence, micro gaming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 I've mentioned it on here before but I've suffered gambling addiction,it's an every day battle and the fact is even if these companies weren't here people would still gamble. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 59 minutes ago, Declan said: Kitty's hate the sea. Catfish? Although admittedly they are generally freshwater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 The "people would still gamble if we didn't facilitate it" argument is utter piss by the way. A lame attempt to absolve ourselves of responsibility of the harms gambling causes. Feel free to apply the same argument to people trafficking, murder for hire, etc etc. Adults should be free to gamble if they so wish (with plenty of controls and help available to mitigate the risk for those who struggle with addiction), but acting like we have no moral responsibility for people's wellbeing because "well, they'd do it anyway if it wasn't with us!" is tosh. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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