Two-lane Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 What is the cost of a similar course in England? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 7 minutes ago, Two-lane said: What is the cost of a similar course in England? And is the course different to what is required on the island, can the UK courses be accessed and recognised locally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwhite Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 48 minutes ago, Two-lane said: What is the cost of a similar course in England? Can be as little as £75. I've seen it less than that on 'special offers'. 40 minutes ago, Gladys said: And is the course different to what is required on the island, can the UK courses be accessed and recognised locally? It's better but it's not transferable. Even if you have a licence here, you can't go and be a 'Premises Supervisor' in the UK, nor vice versa. Anyone brought across by the brewery, for example, needs to go through the course. They will also need to be interviewed by the Police Alcohol Unit too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 It's another example of excessive regulation, but because it was brought in by an ex-copper who was head of the alcohol unit for a while you cannot question it. This is what he has decided is necessary, because he is an 'expert'. 'Manx solutions etc.' Pay up. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Just now, TheTeapot said: It's another example of excessive regulation, but because it was brought in by an ex-copper who was head of the alcohol unit for a while you cannot question it. This is what he has decided is necessary, because he is an 'expert'. 'Manx solutions etc.' Pay up. It's a very good idea and shouldn't be questioned in either need or price. Especially when he's the financial beneficiary. Would this be a monopoly as well, perchance? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwhite Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Just now, Non-Believer said: It's a very good idea and shouldn't be questioned in either need or price. Especially when he's the financial beneficiary. Would this be a monopoly as well, perchance? Yeah, he's the only person doing the course. I guess the other solution is government doing it themselves. It would then be even more expensive and less relevant though, no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 1 hour ago, jackwhite said: Can be as little as £75. I've seen it less than that on 'special offers'. It's better but it's not transferable. Even if you have a licence here, you can't go and be a 'Premises Supervisor' in the UK, nor vice versa. Anyone brought across by the brewery, for example, needs to go through the course. They will also need to be interviewed by the Police Alcohol Unit too. My question wasn't about the licence, which if course is not portable, but the courses offered by UK providers - i.e. whether completion of the course provided by a UK provider was accepted here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 1 hour ago, TheTeapot said: It's another example of excessive regulation, but because it was brought in by an ex-copper who was head of the alcohol unit for a while you cannot question it. This is what he has decided is necessary, because he is an 'expert'. 'Manx solutions etc.' Pay up. It's crazy that they have to do it for restaurants. Yes, pubs and nightclubs, but piss heads don't go to lexperience for 15pintsbof lager and shots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwhite Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 34 minutes ago, Gladys said: My question wasn't about the licence, which if course is not portable, but the courses offered by UK providers - i.e. whether completion of the course provided by a UK provider was accepted here. No, because it would then be a UK course which isn't transferable. I'm not being funny, I thought it would have been obvious. This is an Isle of Man qualification, branded as so. No one else provides the course except the company referred to above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted April 21 Author Share Posted April 21 9 minutes ago, jackwhite said: No, because it would then be a UK course which isn't transferable. I'm not being funny, I thought it would have been obvious. This is an Isle of Man qualification, branded as so. No one else provides the course except the company referred to above. It's not that obvious, competency qualifications from UK providers are accepted by other government bodies, road transport operators for example. There's nothing unique about the island's licensed trade, if there is I stand corrected but would ask the question why? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTail Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 10 minutes ago, Max Power said: It's not that obvious, competency qualifications from UK providers are accepted by other government bodies, road transport operators for example. There's nothing unique about the island's licensed trade, if there is I stand corrected but would ask the question why? We specialise in the best drunks. Far superior to the ones in UK? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 37 minutes ago, jackwhite said: No, because it would then be a UK course which isn't transferable. I'm not being funny, I thought it would have been obvious. This is an Isle of Man qualification, branded as so. No one else provides the course except the company referred to above. It isn't obvious because there are many courses and qualifications given elsewhere that are accepted here. Degrees, GCSEs, A levels, doctorates, apprenticeships, even driving examinations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 3 hours ago, Two-lane said: What is the cost of a similar course in England? the travel costs would likely make it not worthwhile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted April 21 Author Share Posted April 21 9 minutes ago, WTF said: the travel costs would likely make it not worthwhile Some professional competency qualifications are conducted online, in fact training seems to be heading that way in many spheres. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 26 minutes ago, Max Power said: Some professional competency qualifications are conducted online, in fact training seems to be heading that way in many spheres. I would use an AI machine to answer the questions. They would eventually get wise to that and insist on a video link. So I would get Max Headroom to stand in for me. No-one would guess. Someone would have to generate a Maxine Headroom for the alternative gender. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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