Amadeus Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 'Appalling' 75% reduction in waste disposal at Southern Civic Amenity Site Users can now deposit 100kg of waste per month rather than per week https://archive.is/wHPWU#selection-399.0-405.67 First question I would ask is how they monitor this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebushy Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 They don't need to dump much rubbish down South as they have their bins emptied weekly 😉 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Here's their statement via Facebook: The Southern Civic Amenity Site Board is aware of disquiet amongst some surrounding recent comments made on social media regarding its fair use policy at the site. The site has always had a fair use policy at the site. This policy was amended earlier this year from its previous policy of ‘six small bags’ per week, which effectively permitted users of the site to deposit around 100kg of waste per week at the site. To put this into context, the average weight of waste from a domestic 240L wheelie bin is 25kg and permitting 100kg a week equates to 5.2T per year which is equivalent of a 40 cubic yard container (the largest containers used at the amenity sites) from the site going to the Energy from Waste plant at a current cost of around £700. The revised fair use policy is now six small bags per month which is monitored by staff on the site. All amenity sites on the Island have a fair use policy and it is not unreasonable to have such a policy in place. Large scale DIY jobs and house clearances have always been outside of the acceptable use of the site. Should householders be undertaking jobs of that nature, then a skip should be considered which are available from several providers on the Island. Householders who visit the site regularly to deposit recycling, hedge trimmings, grass cuttings and the like from their day to day living should not be affected by the change. The Board is also aware of ongoing comments circulating regarding the closure of the reuse area at the site at the end of 2023. As the Board has previously stated, two of the contributing authorities did not accept the proposed budget for this financial year, which would have seen a reuse area and commercial waste acceptance continuing at the site. The revised budget reduced the overall expenses of running the site but also reduced staffing at the site by the equivalent of 1.5 full time employees. The Board has been working on alternative arrangements which would see the site being able to accept reusable items on behalf of a local charity which would in turn benefit a whole array of charitable causes within the South of the Island. If this develops as the Board hopes, this arrangement will see the charity making monetary donations to worthy organisations in the South covering a whole range of age groups and activities. Added 22 April 2024 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 19 minutes ago, littlebushy said: They don't need to dump much rubbish down South as they have their bins emptied weekly 😉 Saucer of milk for the Douglas rate payer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StCatherine Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Its a strange set up where they use ratepayers funding to compete with the private sector for commercial. Added bonus is If you know that lads at the site and drive an unmarked van in at the weekend then commercial goes in for free. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Once again...let's see the incinerator figures clarified and laid bare, their charges are behind all this. When is somebody in an LA going to grow some gonads and ask for this? 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 2 hours ago, littlebushy said: They don't need to dump much rubbish down South as they have their bins emptied weekly 😉 But they don't collect our recycling so we have to go to the tip with them. I'd rather Douglas's service. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 I wonder what the incinerator fees are now? Does anybody know how we can find out? This was the position in 2019. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/mhk-claims-rising-incinerator-costs-unfair-on-local-authorities/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the shred Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 The local authorities spend a great deal of their budget on waste charges it definitely needs looking into. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 5 hours ago, littlebushy said: They don't need to dump much rubbish down South as they have their bins emptied weekly 😉 Taking stuff for re-use and recycling avoids it becoming 'rubbish'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the shred Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 We used to get a pie chart with the rates illustrating where the outgoings were allocated and waste collection and disposal was at that time the biggest expense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 7 minutes ago, Fred the shred said: We used to get a pie chart with the rates illustrating where the outgoings were allocated and waste collection and disposal was at that time the biggest expense. As much as a third of your Rates demand. Within that, outlying authorities are also hit for haulage costs to the incinerator, obviously. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 "The Isle of Man Government sold the plant to the Isle of Man Bank in 2004 under a 'sale and leaseback' arrangement, which ends in 2029." What happens after that point is reached? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 4 minutes ago, Two-lane said: "The Isle of Man Government sold the plant to the Isle of Man Bank in 2004 under a 'sale and leaseback' arrangement, which ends in 2029." What happens after that point is reached? We look for a new outfit to rip us off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Moghrey Mie said: I wonder what the incinerator fees are now? Does anybody know how we can find out? This was the position in 2019. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/mhk-claims-rising-incinerator-costs-unfair-on-local-authorities/ Lots of little nuggets in there, from 5 years ago. LAs obliged by law to use the facility (I bet they are and without question as to the costs handed down), DOI potentially "balancing its books" (I bet they are), "VAT benefits" of the time for the arrangement (still valid or are we now stumping up because these benefits are NLA?). LONG overdue a very bright light being shone into these corners. Edited April 23 by Non-Believer Extra bit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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