Declan Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 2 hours ago, Andy Onchan said: I would suggest that scoring is subjective. It is. However, it's the subjective opinion (or should be) of an expert (a skilled practioner or teacher in the field) and against set criteria of "good looks like" in that discipline. That doesn't invalidate the performance of the participant who deviates from the set criteria, or the audience member that enjoyed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Ingham Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 17 minutes ago, Declan said: 2 hours ago, Andy Onchan said: It is. However, it's the subjective opinion (or should be) of an expert (a skilled practioner or teacher in the field) and against set criteria of "good looks like" in that discipline You would think, but those days are long gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 17 minutes ago, Anthony Ingham said: You would think, but those days are long gone. I wouldn't know. I did see Annie Kissack judged the poetry, and I've seen worse judges at poetry slams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 2 hours ago, Declan said: It is. However, it's the subjective opinion (or should be) of an expert (a skilled practioner or teacher in the field) and against set criteria of "good looks like" in that discipline. That doesn't invalidate the performance of the participant who deviates from the set criteria, or the audience member that enjoyed it. Indeed. I wasn't suggesting it invalidates the performance at all. But to suggest that scores are random does an injustice to the performer who may well have been technically correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 1 hour ago, Anthony Ingham said: You would think, but those days are long gone. When was the last time you performed in the Guild? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizo Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 4 hours ago, Jarndyce said: Are Gizo and La Colombe of one mind? Eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 23 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: Indeed. I wasn't suggesting it invalidates the performance at all. But to suggest that scores are random does an injustice to the performer who may well have been technically correct. And the judge! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Ingham Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 2 hours ago, Andy Onchan said: When was the last time you performed in the Guild? Last week, and every year but one since 1986. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 1 minute ago, Anthony Ingham said: Last week, and every year but one since 1986. Why? What class? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Ingham Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Just now, Andy Onchan said: What class? Several. Not giving you specifics. It’s an anonymous forum. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 2 minutes ago, Anthony Ingham said: Several. Not giving you specifics. It’s an anonymous forum. Why? I'm really interested to know why you think there are no "skilled practitioners" at the Guild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Ingham Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 2 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: I'm really interested to know why you think there are no "skilled practitioners" at the Guild. I don’t believe all the classes are adjudicated by people with the necessary experience to make a technically informed decision on who has performed the best. To back that up you only have to look at how many adjudicators used to come over ten years ago compared to now. Its obviously a necessary cost saving, but where you used to have a person with experience in one discipline adjudicating a small number of classes, you now have a single adjudicator for different classes across different disciplines. Feel free to PM me if you want more info, on the condition that anything discussed would be quite outing and is not for sharing here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 16 minutes ago, Anthony Ingham said: Last week, and every year but one since 1986. Why? Don't give up. Your balls might eventually drop one day. "I'm typing in the cloud!" 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Colombe Posted May 7 Author Share Posted May 7 1 hour ago, Anthony Ingham said: Last week, and every year but one since 1986. Why? Crikey, how can someone who has been entering several classes every year for getting on for forty years apparently know so little about the marking system? Amazing. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 1 minute ago, La Colombe said: Crikey, how can someone who has been entering several classes every year for getting on for forty years apparently know so little about the marking system? Amazing. Perhaps he just sits there, winding people up about any and all topics he seems to post in? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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