Two-lane Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 Because of the post above, I had the irrepressible urge to find out about this person I have never heard of. " I operate effectively at Board level and have an impressive track record of delivering innovation and change to achieve bottom-line growth." " I also specialise in Consultancy, Mentorship and Non Executive Director services. Specialties: company management, company growth, business development, consulting, contract management, customer relations, fundraising, information systems, leadership, market planning, marketing, negotiation, relationship building, sales, sales support, sales training," "noun: speciality; 1. a pursuit, area of study, or skill to which someone has devoted much time and effort and in which they are expert." I wonder how he has managed to spend "much time and effort" on so many specialities. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Lamb Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 Peter Greenhill Director of E-Business Development for the Isle of Man Government Department of Economic Development. Peter Greenhill is Director of E-Business Development for the Isle of Man Government Department of Economic Development. Peter Greenhill moved to the Isle of Man in July 2013 to take up the position of Head of E-Business for the Isle of Man Government’s Department of Economic Development. He has over 25 years of experience gained world-wide with some of the leading operators in the gaming and financial marketplaces, and extensive experience of leading multi-million pound commercial operations in the fields of technology and services provision. Following a very successful career in banking and banking systems with Credit Lyonnais, GE Information Services and Unisys, Peter has spent over 17 years in executive management positions in the E-Business and E-Gaming sectors. He has provided solutions to lotteries worldwide whilst with EssNet AB and Betex and to the major European casino and betting operators whilst MD of both Cyberview UK and TCS John Huxley Europe. As an executive consultant, Peter has advised a number of companies in the mobile and E- Gaming sector on their B2B operations and has also worked for the board of Camelot on strategic issues. Per Huffpost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 3 hours ago, Two-lane said: Because of the post above, I had the irrepressible urge to find out about this person I have never heard of. " I operate effectively at Board level and have an impressive track record of delivering innovation and change to achieve bottom-line growth." " I also specialise in Consultancy, Mentorship and Non Executive Director services. Specialties: company management, company growth, business development, consulting, contract management, customer relations, fundraising, information systems, leadership, market planning, marketing, negotiation, relationship building, sales, sales support, sales training," "noun: speciality; 1. a pursuit, area of study, or skill to which someone has devoted much time and effort and in which they are expert." I wonder how he has managed to spend "much time and effort" on so many specialities. Shame he's never going to utilise any of these skills as a member of Tynwald. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 1 hour ago, Twitch said: Shame he's never going to utilise any of these skills as a member of Tynwald. Is he a happy clapper? ...having voted against. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the shred Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 God botherer undoubtably 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 If he is not a religious person, but has voted to retain a vote for a particular religious group, that would seem to be incomprehensible. If he is a religious person and has used his personal interests to influence which way to vote, that is something I object to. I cannot say that he should represent the interests of the electorate, as he was not (in the democratic sense) elected, but I do pay his salary. He works for me (although he probably does not see things that way). Does he also allow his personal interests (in, e.g. gaming) to decide how he votes in other cases? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the shred Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 How do these nonentities get elected with all the expertise he claims to have I don’t see anything pertinent to a role as an MLC. In the day the MLCs were chosen from MHK s either the ones who were retiring or the ones who had been dumped, this was by no means perfect by a long chalk but they had experience, hopefully, that they had gained sitting in Tynwald and they had stood for a public vote. As I say this was not great but better than dragging someone off the street as they do now at least I think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 4 minutes ago, Fred the shred said: How do these nonentities get elected with all the expertise he claims to have I don’t see anything pertinent to a role as an MLC. In the day the MLCs were chosen from MHK s either the ones who were retiring or the ones who had been dumped, this was by no means perfect by a long chalk but they had experience, hopefully, that they had gained sitting in Tynwald and they had stood for a public vote. As I say this was not great but better than dragging someone off the street as they do now at least I think so. Cos you sit on your arse most of the year...and can have 2 or 3 other jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Lamb Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 10 hours ago, Fred the shred said: How do these nonentities get elected with all the expertise he claims to have I don’t see anything pertinent to a role as an MLC. In the day the MLCs were chosen from MHK s either the ones who were retiring or the ones who had been dumped, this was by no means perfect by a long chalk but they had experience, hopefully, that they had gained sitting in Tynwald and they had stood for a public vote. As I say this was not great but better than dragging someone off the street as they do now at least I think so. I'd get rid of the whole thing, but come on - in what way is it better to give sinecures to failed MHKs than to get someone with wide international experience of a sector that's important to our economy? We've had far too many postmen and chimney sweeps, people who would fail an 11 plus type exam, right-wing nutjobs and failed businessmen (fill in names). We have a system where someone who qualified as a pharmacist years ago looks like an intellectual giant amongst a shower who you wouldn't trust to wash your car. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 hour ago, Harry Lamb said: I'd get rid of the whole thing, but come on - in what way is it better to give sinecures to failed MHKs than to get someone with wide international experience of a sector that's important to our economy? We've had far too many postmen and chimney sweeps, people who would fail an 11 plus type exam, right-wing nutjobs and failed businessmen (fill in names). We have a system where someone who qualified as a pharmacist years ago looks like an intellectual giant amongst a shower who you wouldn't trust to wash your car. But if MLCs were elected by popular vote then wouldn't that be truly democratic, chimney sweeps an' all? All LibVan/Hooper have done is picked the low hanging fruit; the line of least resistance in the Bishop's vote and despite LibVan not having a publicly available manifesto or policy document on this or any other issues for that matter. They're making this up as they go along and the Keys sheeple just follow it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 I actually have more respect for Henderson and Greenhill on this that I do for the rest of LegCo[1]. They at least have been consistent. When this topic came up last July with Faragher's original motion, there was an amendment from Maltby to keep the Bishop on LegCo but remove their vote - just as in the current Bill. All current LegCo members (plus the then-Bishop) voted against[2]. So the other six changed their mind in the interim. Presumably because they believe that LegCo should always follow the will of the Keys (in which case what's the point of it). Or because they are dependent on the Keys (and their civil servant masters) for their comfy positions and will meekly do whatever they want. In which case even a random cleric, or indeed random person off the street, will probably do a more useful job. [1] Not that much obviously. They're Henderson and Greenhill. [2] If you follow the link in my then comment you'll see it gives 8 LegCo against and if you count them up there's 9. Who needs laws passed when the bureaucrats will decide whose vote counts. Or can't even count up to ten. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the shred Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 LegCo should not go against the will of the people that is not their remit. They are supposed to scrutinise acts that are about to become law that is their remit. Tynwald are the law makers as they are the elected members representing the people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the shred Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 So Henderson has managed to stall the vote by asking for a committee to look into the impact of the Bishop not having a vote on Leg Co. charming…..and the three members off the Committee are guess who himself, Craine and another one who voted for Henderson’s amendment. So all three on this committee are against the motion of the Bishop losing the vote, how democratic is that. He has also made a point of this activity to be given plenty of time not to be rushed. Disgusting. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 26 minutes ago, Fred the shred said: So Henderson has managed to stall the vote by asking for a committee to look into the impact of the Bishop not having a vote on Leg Co. charming…..and the three members off the Committee are guess who himself, Craine and another one who voted for Henderson’s amendment. So all three on this committee are against the motion of the Bishop losing the vote, how democratic is that. He has also made a point of this activity to be given plenty of time not to be rushed. Disgusting. I expect they will call for Peter Edge to submit yet another study to say why they should keep the bishop's vote. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 2. Isle of Man Constitution Bill 2023 Committee Motion made – That the Isle of Man Constitution Bill 2023 be referred to a Committee of three Members, to consider and report as soon as practicable. Mr Henderson Council divided. For: Miss August-Hanson, Mr Craine, Mr Greenhill, Mr Henderson, Mrs Kinnish, Mr Mercer. Against: Mrs Kelsey, Mrs Sharpe. Motion carried. Miss August-Hanson, Mr Craine, Mr Henderson and Mr Mercer were proposed and seconded. Mr Craine, Mr Henderson and Mr Mercer were elected ----------- Some small numbers involved here, but enough to shunt the train into a siding (and be forgotten). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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