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Window dressing on an Internet.  It will never get started but keeps everyone  happy that the shit hole that is the harbour area can look like southern Spain for another couple of years.

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"If approved, they would see a mixed-use development built on the site, with 85 apartments, office space, a multi-screen cinema complex, restaurants and a food hall".

Meanwhile, in the real world: "Streaming services like Netflix, Amazon Prime, and Disney+ have greatly impacted movie theater attendance in recent years. As more people opt for the convenience and affordability of watching movies at home, theaters are seeing a decline in ticket sales and revenue. This shift in consumer behavior has significant implications for the entire film industry, from production to exhibition".

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It appears the Company is owned and managed by an Irish guy called Mervyn Smith. A search shows him as secretary of an Irish building company called Blainroe Contractors. Mr Smith received a mention in the Paradise Papers. 

 WYYTTAVIN LIMITED was incorporated in 2022 and has issued share capital of £1. The registered address appears to be that of Pelagos Yachts. 

Raises some questions about how and why some of our taxpayers money may be thrown at this.   

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5 minutes ago, Mistercee said:

It appears the Company is owned and managed by an Irish guy called Mervyn Smith. A search shows him as secretary of an Irish building company called Blainroe Contractors. Mr Smith received a mention in the Paradise Papers. 

 WYYTTAVIN LIMITED was incorporated in 2022 and has issued share capital of £1. The registered address appears to be that of Pelagos Yachts. 

Raises some questions about how and why some of our taxpayers money may be thrown at this.   

The way the grants/loans schemes works is that payment is only made to the developer once the building work is completed in compliance with planning and other permissions. So, he’s going to have to raise the capital cost.

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1 hour ago, x-in-man said:

Window dressing on an Internet.  It will never get started but keeps everyone  happy that the shit hole that is the harbour area can look like southern Spain for another couple of years.

In 2007, Valencia spent about £1b to build the City of Arts and Science, including a Formula One street circuit. “Valencia still hosts Formula One races. But the regional government has run out of funds to repair schools, and some kids have been attending class in trailers for years”….

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The photo-realistic artist's impressions are designed to minimise the height of the tallest part of the building.

It is in the background of all the images bar one - in the "Roastery" image it seems that it is barely higher than the building in the foreground.

The Steam Packet building is two stories high and the planned building is 14 stories.

 

 

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So the 25%...what happens if the estimated cost is £90m (25% = £22.5m) and then the usual caveat is applied: 'IOM can't run a bath' - and the actual cost is, say, £120m (25% = £30m)?

Is this 25% and £22.5m agreed at start?

Or are we looking at the usual IOM Govt open cheque book again?

 

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1 hour ago, John Wright said:

The way the grants/loans schemes works is that payment is only made to the developer once the building work is completed in compliance with planning and other permissions. So, he’s going to have to raise the capital cost.

I am not sure that is the case John. 

According to the Island Infrastructure Scheme 2022:

 Payment of financial assistance: general

(1) The Department may make a payment of financial assistance from funds maintained by the Treasury to an eligible business in respect of qualifying costs incurred, or to be incurred, directly or indirectly by that eligible business in carrying out qualifying development in accordance with this Scheme. This is subject to sub-paragraphs (2) to (6).

(2) Payment of financial assistance is subject to the satisfaction of the conditions and other requirements specified in this Scheme. This is subject to sub-paragraph (3).

(3) But the Department may waive any condition or other requirement specified in this Scheme in any case where the Department considers it is appropriate to do so.

So payment may be made in respect of costs to be incurred and the Department can also waive any conditions or requirements specified in the scheme. The Magic Money Tree Shop is open!!  

 

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16 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said:

Or are we looking at the usual IOM Govt open cheque book again?

Highly likely.

According to Dr Allinson :"Through funding from the Economic Strategy Board, we are supporting and incentivising private sector investment into our island, aligning to the ambition to see £1bn invested over the long term..."

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50 minutes ago, code99 said:

According to Dr Allinson :"Through funding from the Economic Strategy Board, we are supporting and incentivising private sector investment into our island, aligning to the ambition to see £1bn invested over the long term..."

Does that mean he is hoping for £1bn from private sector investment?

This is the news article:

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/lord-street-regeneration-plans-revealed/

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Remember back to the high tide, with surge, on 1 February 2002.

"The Tongue and North Quay in Douglas suffered extensive flooding and sea water invaded many properties along the promenade. Cars were swept away, and boats ended up on the Tongue in Douglas as the harbour flooded, with boats and vehicles damaging one another. The promenade was closed, with parts remaining closed until late Saturday"

Source - https://www.gov.im/media/1040871/the_isle_of_man_climate_change_scoping_study_-_costing_the_impacts_of_climate_change_-_estimated_costs_of_three_historic_weather_events.pdf

See also picture at http://www.island-images.co.uk/Year2002/0202011336.html

If they are thinking of putting anything under road level, that would be lunacy.

 

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I wonder by the time this building is completed, what the economy will be like? Will the island be booming, and will the hospitality industry still be protesting? It is ironic that there are plans for a restaurant, which I am sure other restaurants will be delighted with. Also plans for a food hall - another Spar? 

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