Albert Tatlock Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 41 minutes ago, Heytherelaxey said: Why not? Its already been accepted for the government grant. Cos planning is the next hurdle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, Banker said: Lives in castletown , doing fine as far as I know although not walking too well apparently Pissed as usual then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 More waffle from Minister Tim from the Starship Enterprise, where he says this development will take years to come into fruition. It’s taken years as it is and it’s an unregulated car park, and an eyesore. From the NPM - Government says it’s ‘very keen’ to see development on Lord Street but admits progress won’t happen in the near future. Plans to transform the brownfield site in the capitalinto 85 apartments, restaurants, retail space, a cinema and a ‘bus information centre’ have been submitted. The project is being supported by the Island Infrastructure Scheme which provides up to 25 percent funding of the eligible costs of the redevelopment. But Enterprise Minister Tim Johnston says the scheme still has a long way to go before it could come into fruition: * Development whereby public funding is likely or agreed, Starship Enterprise, DoI, or Planning needs to create a timeframe for works to start on the said development, rather than leaving it empty for 5+ years. Do the developers have the funds to both start and complete? Look at the Duke Street. flats development, no doubt with Starship Enterprise involvement, hardly a beacon of success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTail Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Does he explain exactly why it should be so long? Assuming the developers are serious and can demonstrate that they have the funds to do this then all that is required is planning permission. In the normal world planning permission should take no more than 6 months. Personally I doubt it will proceed as this cannot be economically viable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 1 minute ago, NoTail said: Does he explain exactly why it should be so long? Assuming the developers are serious and can demonstrate that they have the funds to do this then all that is required is planning permission. In the normal world planning permission should take no more than 6 months. Personally I doubt it will proceed as this cannot be economically viable. If I were the developer I'd be selling up as soon as I get planning. Planning permission. 25% government subsidy to the business. Kerching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Skies are Grey V2 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 I reckon we'll get GTA VI before we ground broken on this! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 1 hour ago, 2112 said: More waffle from Minister Tim from the Starship Enterprise, where he says this development will take years to come into fruition. It’s taken years as it is and it’s an unregulated car park, and an eyesore. From the NPM - Government says it’s ‘very keen’ to see development on Lord Street but admits progress won’t happen in the near future. Plans to transform the brownfield site in the capitalinto 85 apartments, restaurants, retail space, a cinema and a ‘bus information centre’ have been submitted. The project is being supported by the Island Infrastructure Scheme which provides up to 25 percent funding of the eligible costs of the redevelopment. But Enterprise Minister Tim Johnston says the scheme still has a long way to go before it could come into fruition: * Development whereby public funding is likely or agreed, Starship Enterprise, DoI, or Planning needs to create a timeframe for works to start on the said development, rather than leaving it empty for 5+ years. Do the developers have the funds to both start and complete? Look at the Duke Street. flats development, no doubt with Starship Enterprise involvement, hardly a beacon of success. The fact that a private development also has effectively a bus station in it is puzzling me. Why would they do this, if they weren't receiving some sort of sweetener from the Bus Operator (Govt)? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maugholdmafia Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 21 minutes ago, The Phantom said: The fact that a private development also has effectively a bus station in it is puzzling me. Why would they do this, if they weren't receiving some sort of sweetener from the Bus Operator (Govt)? This is the dividend so that they do not have to provide affordable housing as part of the development. This is the "community" return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Maugholdmafia said: This is the dividend so that they do not have to provide affordable housing as part of the development. This is the "community" return. What about ‘affordable’ housing, which IOMG keeps saying they understand people’s concerns etc. Assuming that these flats will be for sale, would anyone wishing to part with a large sum of money want to live above a glorified bus station, or waiting room, least of all, walking home from a meal at Barbary Coast, to see local piss heads waiting for bus? Could IOMG not have done a clean, modern bus station site, with waiting room, toilets and a shop, like what they demolished years ago. Cinemas, restaurants, cafes aren’t essential for the area. Edited May 29 by 2112 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 38 minutes ago, Maugholdmafia said: This is the dividend so that they do not have to provide affordable housing as part of the development. This is the "community" return. With Starship Enterprise Tim saying this development going to take a long time before spades are in the ground, is there any guarantee that this site will ever be built upon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfc84 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 if you need a bus station you've planned your day wrongly there's an app and timetables to tell you precisely when the bus will arrive 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 28 minutes ago, 2112 said: What about ‘affordable’ housing, which IOMG keeps saying they understand people’s concerns etc. Assuming that these flats will be for sale, would anyone wishing to part with a large sum of money want to live above a glorified bus station, or waiting room, least of all, walking home from a meal at Barbary Coast, to see local piss heads waiting for bus? That's really no different to living in Port Erin in the Summer. 4 minutes ago, lfc84 said: if you need a bus station you've planned your day wrongly there's an app and timetables to tell you precisely when the bus will arrive In theory. But the times of the buses don't always match up. The Peel / Port Erin buses are specifically timed so that one arrives at the Bus Station 5 minutes after the other leaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfc84 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Depart/Arrive Changes Legs Duration 09:07 10:06 1 0:59 Walk to Victoria Road, Bridge, Castletown 2 minutes. Depart 09:07, Arrive 09:09 Take 14 bus to Foxdale School, Higher Foxdale 22 minutes. Depart 09:10, Arrive 09:32 @iombusandrail Bus Vannin Today's Live Departures / Service Timetable Walk to Higher Foxdale Industrial Estate, Higher Foxdale Less than a minute. Depart 09:32, Arrive 09:32 Take 4B bus to Albany Road, Tynwald Road Junction, Peel 20 minutes. Depart 09:43, Arrive 10:03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the shred Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 And if you are shopping in Douglas and your next bus is not for another 20 minutes where do you wait for it with perhaps a toilet for extra convenience? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 A cafe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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