Moghrey Mie Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 2 hours ago, cissolt said: Drug dealers is very different than testing people sitting in a car who had a smoke the day before. Don't forget they started arresting people weeks before the law was even approved. Compare with this woman's sentence, driver and passenger suffered fractured skulls: https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/woman-fined-and-banned-from-driving-after-tt-crash/ Why does it take a year to come to court? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 10 hours ago, Moghrey Mie said: Why does it take a year to come to court? so it hits the papers at a time to remind people to drive safely TT week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 13 minutes ago, WTF said: so it hits the papers at a time to remind people to drive safely TT week. More like more time for the advocates to make more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 51 minutes ago, Happier diner said: More like more time for the advocates to make more money. if you're pleading guilty it can't be dragged out too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 18 hours ago, NoTail said: Go all the way .... decriminalised all crimes. No police will be needed. On the contrary. I said decriminalise drugs USE. Treat those who have fallen into addiction and help them to come off and stay off. Come down hard on the pushers and their overlords. Life sentences to mean life. Take out the profit though, and any business will ultimately collapse. Take away their market. Knock on bonus is that petty crime to feed the habit will fall radically at the same time. Or we can keep doing what we've been doing for 40 years as the whole situation got steadily worse. It's a social issue rather than a criminal one, but I appreciate it isn't fashionable to nurture a healthy society. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 3 hours ago, WTF said: if you're pleading guilty it can't be dragged out too long. What happens in a lot of cases is that people plead Not Guilty and then get their lawyer to bargain down the charges to a level they will admit to. This may have happened in the case referred to here, when she was "initially charged with causing serious injury by dangerous driving, but that charge was later reduced to one of causing serious injury by careless driving". This all takes time, but Manx courts operate fairly slowly anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the shred Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 I think the court lists are long atm John would know but dates for cases needing longer court time seem to be getting set for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 17 hours ago, Moghrey Mie said: Why does it take a year to come to court? There's a huge backlog in the uk for getting bloods tested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 2 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: What happens in a lot of cases is that people plead Not Guilty and then get their lawyer to bargain down the charges to a level they will admit to. This may have happened in the case referred to here, when she was "initially charged with causing serious injury by dangerous driving, but that charge was later reduced to one of causing serious injury by careless driving". This all takes time, but Manx courts operate fairly slowly anyway. 42 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: There's a huge backlog in the uk for getting bloods tested. 43 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: There's a huge backlog in the uk for getting bloods tested. Where there’s things like vehicle defects, accident reconstruction, alcohol, and the state of injuries of the other party, there is plenty of scope for delay to drag in. May takes several weeks for AG’s to decide charge. Then adjourn with no plea until full file of papers, say 3 weeks, often only served on last day, so another adjournment then not guilty plea, pre trial review six weeks after that. Date setting depends on witness availability. If the defence instructs its own accident reconstruction that’ll add three months. If the injured party is in hospital with borderline condition for upping charge to causing serious bodily injury that more delay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 On 5/30/2024 at 1:37 PM, english zloty said: Get E-cars (govt are supposed to be leading the way) and cycle where possible. Can't eat you McD on a windy day on a bicyle though! And contrary to the popular mythconception they do have legs but they only appear to use them in TT week if it's not raining, the rest of the year they are wearing out the seats in the vans and cars or in the canteen probably. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 1 hour ago, CallMeCurious said: Can't eat you McD on a windy day on a bicyle though! And contrary to the popular mythconception they do have legs but they only appear to use them in TT week if it's not raining, the rest of the year they are wearing out the seats in the vans and cars or in the canteen probably. Don't have a canteen mate hence having to get food out and about, and the reason you see more walking at TT is because they're doing longer shifts and officers are pulled out of departments. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 On 5/30/2024 at 12:58 PM, Albert Tatlock said: That's a 50% reduction straight away. Nah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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