Public sector want inflation busting rises again

[Jarndyce]

Just now, Non-Believer said:

Plus, quite a few of the reductions/changes brought in by PSC terms have since been rescinded as well for various reasons

Which?  And for what reasons?

[Non-Believer]

3 hours ago, Jarndyce said:

Which?  And for what reasons?

The ones I immediately know about are the flat Mon-Fri pay rate for first ten hours of overtime working in a week for manual staff.

This was rescinded because of perceived recruitment difficulties, unfairness of having newbies potentially working alongside legacies at the same time on completely different overtime pay rates for the same work and because employing bodies might always select the same lower paid for overtime duties to keep costs down.

An accrued "privilege day" holiday has been reinstated.

I'm pretty sure there are others too but I'll have to check.

Edited June 22 by Non-Believer
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[Meoir Shee]

41 minutes ago, Banker said:

public sector always have a lot more sickness days than private sector

 

On 6/21/2024 at 7:52 AM, Meoir Shee said:

Yep, the public sector has a higher rate of absence, totally correct.  The public sector almost entirely runs the national health service, usually inhabited, somewhat unsurprisingly, by ill people.  Perhaps there is a correlation between that and staff absence?

Furthermore, a greater proportion of women are employed in the public sector in almost every single role, especially education, health and social care.  From memory, only police officers and doctors have more male than female employees.  It may surprise you to learn that women have babies and often get ill as a result, and somewhat unsurprisingly, are absent.

Perhaps a police officer has attended a particularly harrowing scene, maybe knife crime or a domestic incident and needs some time off, maybe PTSD?  Or a health worker the same, a harrowing shift in ICU or A&E?  The things those people put up with and witness should not be used as point scoring re: absence.

Raw data always needs to be contextualised.  A bit like saying the banking crisis cost the taxpayer the initially claimed £400bn+, it didn’t, it was ‘only’ £23bn in the long run.  Is banking public or private sector?  Hmmm?

We know @Banker, why not change the record?

[Happier diner]

1 hour ago, Jarndyce said:

Which?  And for what reasons?

They were rescinded because they couldn't get anyone to apply for jobs. The best example is mechanics. Ellerslie. Shafted their terms and conditions so they all left.

Whatever anyone says, the market is king. Everyone thinks the PSC and the government workers were onto a good thing. So they shafted their terms and conditions and hey ho, they all left. Now they have rescinded alot of those changes because they have realised....it's the isle of man and it's an expensive place to live. 

[Non-Believer]

40 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

They were rescinded because they couldn't get anyone to apply for jobs. The best example is mechanics. Ellerslie. Shafted their terms and conditions so they all left.

Whatever anyone says, the market is king. Everyone thinks the PSC and the government workers were onto a good thing. So they shafted their terms and conditions and hey ho, they all left. Now they have rescinded alot of those changes because they have realised....it's the isle of man and it's an expensive place to live. 

A couple of things in that...wrong way around, firstly, PSC was to remove some of the over-generous T&Cs, to include the leave entitlement (the "good thing"). But that wasn't legacy staff, their terms couldn't be shafted without consultation and agreement. They may have been subject to some organisational change that they didn't like though. A lot of servicing and repair work had begun to be farmed out to the private sector in the name of "savings" and Longworth also had his fingers in the mess with his Banks Circus empire.

I don't doubt that some of those who left perhaps found better pay in the private sector but some also got out of their trade altogether.

Also it needs to be remembered that those who did the shafting pan-government in respect of all this made damn sure that it didn't include themselves and some have also since departed, pushing their MARS wheelbarrows to boot. These were some of those whose salaries were really contributing to the sustainability problem, not mechanics or brush pushers. Looking after oneself is the real priority at that particular trough.