Exotic Bird Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 1 minute ago, Gladys said: So why raise it? So why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Just now, Exotic Bird said: So why not? Because in your own words it was 'hardly an event'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exotic Bird Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 2 minutes ago, Gladys said: Because in your own words it was 'hardly an event'. Hmm. That was in response to this. 1 hour ago, Two-lane said: this is the ManxForums and the event took place in public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exotic Bird Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 (edited) If it's really important to you I'll pm you the MHK's name. Eta, actually I don't see much value in doing that. So I won't. Edited July 3 by Exotic Bird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 3 hours ago, Banker said: I don’t like the smell of smoke but if people want to smoke outside in parks , beaches etc I don’t have an issue as long as they don’t throw butts everywhere. A lot of cigarette butts discarded outside are as a result of the smoking ban. Previously the majority of non domestic smoking was probably done in pubs, clubs, cafes and similar establishments where there were proper facilities for extinguishing, and removal, of these butts. ( It’s hardly like you can put a still burning cigarette in your pocket for later disposal). Maybe time for a rethink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piebaps Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 12 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: All cigarette butts discarded outside are as a result of ignorant people Most bars etc have ashtrays outside but the bastards just ignore them and flick their fag butts into the road. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 32 minutes ago, Exotic Bird said: If it's really important to you I'll pm you the MHK's name. Eta, actually I don't see much value in doing that. So I won't. I don't need, or want, to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exotic Bird Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 I wasn't going to tell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ram Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 46 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: A lot of cigarette butts discarded outside are as a result of the smoking ban. Previously the majority of non domestic smoking was probably done in pubs, clubs, cafes and similar establishments where there were proper facilities for extinguishing, and removal, of these butts. ( It’s hardly like you can put a still burning cigarette in your pocket for later disposal). Maybe time for a rethink All the responsible cigarette smokers I know carry a pocket ashtray. Plus it’s not like there is a shortage of bins with cigarette disposal, especially in town or near a pub. All pubs have ways of disposing don’t they? Leaving a butt anywhere is just lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Ship Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 17 hours ago, Albert Tatlock said: I can't see it happening. It will criminalise 10% of the population within 15 years, not just tobacco smokers, but those doing cannabis etc. And it will create a massive black market. ...then add all the confusion at e.g. TT when people from different countries arrive. Kick it into touch. I'm not so sure regarding the UK. I used to smoke between 20 and 40 cigarettes a day but gave up in 2019. Since then I reckon I've seen no more than a dozen people smoking in public places. In fact it's so unusual to see someone smoking that it's become something that's literally remarkable. I also can't remember the last time I saw a cigarette butt lying on the pavement or in the gutter. If a UK government wanted to introduce a ban I think there'd be very little opposition. Can't speak for those damn' decadent continentals though... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 44 minutes ago, Exotic Bird said: I wasn't going to tell you. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 2 hours ago, cissolt said: Wasn't she responsible for the old hyperbaric chamber being closed down? No, don’t think so - can you demonstrate that she was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 4 hours ago, cissolt said: Wasn't she responsible for the old hyperbaric chamber being closed down? Another arrogant shouty person who should have no place in politics, we seem to have quite a few of them in DHSC. I very much doubt it. She would have been one of its biggest advocates. You know with her running a diving company that has clients that occasionally get the bends and need a hyperbaric chamber, so they don't die. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 2 hours ago, The Phantom said: I very much doubt it. She would have been one of its biggest advocates. You know with her running a diving company that has clients that occasionally get the bends and need a hyperbaric chamber, so they don't die. Indeed. Gladys linked to a piece in a diving magazine where she was saying that it was useful having it on the Island after it had had to close down in 2018. As it happens the charity that now runs the hyperbaric chamber has just announced that it has "recently completed its capital project to remodel its facility and install a brand new state of the art hyperbaric chamber". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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