Jarndyce Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 10 minutes ago, Gladys said: The descent of man? …or should that be The Descent of Mann? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 5 hours ago, Hairy Poppins said: Seems it was BS. No 'royal' guests this year... which is a result as it saves the taxpayers some cash. It was fairly clear it wasn't, as there weren't hordes of expensive policemen checking that every blade of grass within five miles of St Johns wasn't really a terrorist. Just so the headline is answered, this is the full list of those invited: His Excellency Mr Inigo Lambertini Ambassador of Italy to the United Kingdom . Accompanied by Mr Nicolò Biscottini, Chief of Staff to the Ambassador, and Mr Matteo Corradini, Head of the Consulate of Italy in Manchester His Excellency Mr Tore Hattrem, Ambassador of Norway in the United Kingdom. Accompanied by his wife, Ms Marit Gjelten Dr Stephen Aiken OBE MLA, Deputy Speaker of the Northern Ireland Assembly Commodore Michael Bullock OBE, Chief Executive Officer of the Northern Lighthouse Board. Accompanied by his wife, Mrs Clare Bullock An Leas-Cheann Comhairle Catherine Connolly TD, Deputy Chairperson of Dáil Éireann, Oireachtas. Accompanied by her husband, Mr Brian McEnery and her Private Secretary, Mr Peter Malone Mr Eddie Donaldson OBE FCA, A Vice President of the Royal National Lifeboat Institution The Rt Hon Alison Johnstone MSP, Presiding Officer of the Scottish Parliament. Accompanied by her husband, Mr Alan Smith The Rt Hon Dame Siobhan Keegan, Lady Chief Justice of Northern Ireland Commodore Thomas Knowles ADC MA FCMI FSA (Scot) RN, Naval Regional Commander for Northern England and the Isle of Man Sir Richard McMahon, Bailiff of Guernsey Complete absence of any Westminster pols due to the election of course (even if you're retiring you're supposed to be helping out) and even the devolved pols are presiding officers who would be less involved. As usual there someone from the Oireachtas and a Nordic representative, the rest of it has a strong naval theme, presumably because of the RNLI 200th Anniversary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 1 hour ago, Frances said: but where else could you see this combination is that stuart hall on the right ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 15 minutes ago, Frances said: but where else could you see this combination This picture may well be from it, but, as others may be unaware, the Manx Museum has a display of photos on at the moment taken by the great chronicler of British mild eccentricity, Martin Parr of "previously unseen photographs captured during Manx National Week 2023". Mostly proving that, in any possible group of human beings, Skelly is the most ridiculous one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 20 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: Mostly proving that, in any possible group of human beings, Skelly is the most ridiculous one. Similar to the infinite monkey/typewriter hypothesis, you know it's mathematically possible that it could happen but you just can't believe it at a gut level. I mean, I'm open to a proof-by-contradiction that Skelly is NOT the most ridiculous in any hypothetical grouping, I just can't think of one offhand myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ram Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 1 hour ago, Roger Mexico said: It was fairly clear it wasn't, as there weren't hordes of expensive policemen checking that every blade of grass within five miles of St Johns wasn't really a terrorist. Just so the headline is answered, this is the full list of those invited: His Excellency Mr Inigo Lambertini Ambassador of Italy to the United Kingdom . Accompanied by Mr Nicolò Biscottini, Chief of Staff to the Ambassador, and Mr Matteo Corradini, Head of the Consulate of Italy in Manchester His Excellency Mr Tore Hattrem, Ambassador of Norway in the United Kingdom. Accompanied by his wife, Ms Marit Gjelten Dr Stephen Aiken OBE MLA, Deputy Speaker of the Northern Ireland Assembly Commodore Michael Bullock OBE, Chief Executive Officer of the Northern Lighthouse Board. Accompanied by his wife, Mrs Clare Bullock An Leas-Cheann Comhairle Catherine Connolly TD, Deputy Chairperson of Dáil Éireann, Oireachtas. Accompanied by her husband, Mr Brian McEnery and her Private Secretary, Mr Peter Malone Mr Eddie Donaldson OBE FCA, A Vice President of the Royal National Lifeboat Institution The Rt Hon Alison Johnstone MSP, Presiding Officer of the Scottish Parliament. Accompanied by her husband, Mr Alan Smith The Rt Hon Dame Siobhan Keegan, Lady Chief Justice of Northern Ireland Commodore Thomas Knowles ADC MA FCMI FSA (Scot) RN, Naval Regional Commander for Northern England and the Isle of Man Sir Richard McMahon, Bailiff of Guernsey Complete absence of any Westminster pols due to the election of course (even if you're retiring you're supposed to be helping out) and even the devolved pols are presiding officers who would be less involved. As usual there someone from the Oireachtas and a Nordic representative, the rest of it has a strong naval theme, presumably because of the RNLI 200th Anniversary. I would imagine many more were invited, but those are the ones who were bored enough to accept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Crowds looking a bit thin on the ground! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 at least the grand stand will be half the price next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Max Power said: Crowds looking a bit thin on the ground! It's been heading that way for a few years. Probably should stop charging people to sit in the Grandstand. Edited July 5 by Ham_N_Eggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 They should move the grandstand to the S100 perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 The Tynwald Day website page also has the usual list of the Acts that have been passed in the previous year - and the titles of which have to be read out at the ceremony for them to remain valid. It's historically one of the main reasons for the whole thing (or indeed Thing) taking place. And this year it's almost as scant as last year: Trusts and Trustees Act 2023 AN ACT to amend the Trustee Act 2001 in respect of trustees’ duties, powers and liabilities, to amend the Trustee Act 1961 in respect of trustees’ powers and the powers of the court, to amend the Limitation Act 1984 in respect of actions against trust property and to amend the Apportionment Act 1982 in respect of entitlement to income arising under a trust; and for connected purposes. Income Tax Act 2023 AN ACT to confirm the Income Tax (Substance Requirements and Related Provisions) Order 2023. Animal Welfare Act 2023 AN ACT to make provision relating to animal welfare and to empower the Department of Environment, Food and Agriculture to apply legislation of the United Kingdom relating to the welfare of animals to the Island; and for connected purposes. Gas Regulation (Amendment) Act 2024 AN ACT to amend section 12 of the Gas Regulation Act 1995 to confer power on the Communications and Utilities Regulatory Authority to require persons to produce documents and furnish information to it for the purposes of the setting of parameters within which a public gas supplier may fix tariffs (and to make consequential amendments); to amend Schedule 2 to that Act to confer on the Council of Ministers the power to make orders to specify circumstances where non-payment by a tariff customer may not lead to the cutting off of the supply of gas to premises; and for connected purposes. Sanctions Act 2024 AN ACT to provide for the implementation in the Island of United Kingdom sanctions provisions; to amend the Terrorism and Other Crime (Financial Restrictions) Act 2014 so as to align certain provisions more closely with equivalent provisions of United Kingdom law; and for connected purposes. Income Tax Act 2024 AN ACT to confirm the Income Tax (Personal Allowance) (Temporary Taxation) Order 2023; to amend the Income Tax Act 1970; and for connected purposes. It's only six, a bit up from four last year, but there's an Income Tax Act every year (so one of the two will just be fixing a previous one); the Sanctions is mostly copying the UK and the Gas one was rushed through in a day. And even six is tiny if you compare it to number in practically every previous year: Year No Year No 2001 26 2013 16 2002 17 2014 11 2003 8 2015 18 2004 14 2016 14 2005 6 2017 13 2006 7 2018 14 2007 23 2019 10 2008 12 2020 9 2009 17 2021 20 2010 10 2022 19 2011 12 2023 4 2012 20 2024 6 As you can see the only other time they were (almost) so low was when Donald Gelling had to take over after Corkill was forced to step down and so had no real mandate. It shows just how rudderless and how little it actually does despite all its talk of plans and endless reports. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 2 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: The Tynwald Day website page also has the usual list of the Acts that have been passed in the previous year - and the titles of which have to be read out at the ceremony for them to remain valid. It's historically one of the main reasons for the whole thing (or indeed Thing) taking place. And this year it's almost as scant as last year: Trusts and Trustees Act 2023 AN ACT to amend the Trustee Act 2001 in respect of trustees’ duties, powers and liabilities, to amend the Trustee Act 1961 in respect of trustees’ powers and the powers of the court, to amend the Limitation Act 1984 in respect of actions against trust property and to amend the Apportionment Act 1982 in respect of entitlement to income arising under a trust; and for connected purposes. Income Tax Act 2023 AN ACT to confirm the Income Tax (Substance Requirements and Related Provisions) Order 2023. Animal Welfare Act 2023 AN ACT to make provision relating to animal welfare and to empower the Department of Environment, Food and Agriculture to apply legislation of the United Kingdom relating to the welfare of animals to the Island; and for connected purposes. Gas Regulation (Amendment) Act 2024 AN ACT to amend section 12 of the Gas Regulation Act 1995 to confer power on the Communications and Utilities Regulatory Authority to require persons to produce documents and furnish information to it for the purposes of the setting of parameters within which a public gas supplier may fix tariffs (and to make consequential amendments); to amend Schedule 2 to that Act to confer on the Council of Ministers the power to make orders to specify circumstances where non-payment by a tariff customer may not lead to the cutting off of the supply of gas to premises; and for connected purposes. Sanctions Act 2024 AN ACT to provide for the implementation in the Island of United Kingdom sanctions provisions; to amend the Terrorism and Other Crime (Financial Restrictions) Act 2014 so as to align certain provisions more closely with equivalent provisions of United Kingdom law; and for connected purposes. Income Tax Act 2024 AN ACT to confirm the Income Tax (Personal Allowance) (Temporary Taxation) Order 2023; to amend the Income Tax Act 1970; and for connected purposes. It's only six, a bit up from four last year, but there's an Income Tax Act every year (so one of the two will just be fixing a previous one); the Sanctions is mostly copying the UK and the Gas one was rushed through in a day. And even six is tiny if you compare it to number in practically every previous year: Year No Year No 2001 26 2013 16 2002 17 2014 11 2003 8 2015 18 2004 14 2016 14 2005 6 2017 13 2006 7 2018 14 2007 23 2019 10 2008 12 2020 9 2009 17 2021 20 2010 10 2022 19 2011 12 2023 4 2012 20 2024 6 As you can see the only other time they were (almost) so low was when Donald Gelling had to take over after Corkill was forced to step down and so had no real mandate. It shows just how rudderless and how little it actually does despite all its talk of plans and endless reports. Could you please repost this in Manx Roger, as befits the occasion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 It's ok, I remembered Google now translates into Manx! Lagh ny Trustyn as ny Trustyn 2023 AN ACT dy chaghlaa yn Lagh Trustee 2001 mychione obbraghyn, cummey as obbraghyn trustee, dy chaghlaa yn Lagh Trustee 1961 mychione cummey trustee as cummey y chooish, dy chaghlaa yn Lagh Limitation 1984 mychione obbraghyn noi trustee eiraght as dy ghra rish y Lagh 1982 son y rheynn mychione y chree son tendreil ta ry-gheddyn fo trust; as son ymmyd ceaut. Lagh Tax Teihll 2023 AN ACT dy daink y Order 2023 son Tax Income (Riaghtyn Substance as Ard-reiltyssyn Co-cheangailt). Lagh son Slaynt Ainleyn 2023 ACT dy yannoo aarloo bentyn da kiarail beiyn as dy chur pooar da'n Rheynn Çhymmyltaght, Bee as Eirinys dy chur stiagh slattyssyn y Reeriaght Unnaneyssit bentyn da kiarail beiyn da'n Ellan; as son ymmyd ceaut. Lagh Reiltys (Cyndaa) Gas 2024 AN ACT dy chaghlaa art 12 jeh'n Lagh Reiltys Gas 1995 dy choyrt pooar da'n Authority Reiltys Communications as Utilities dy ghra rish deiney dy chur magh documentyn as dy chur fys da son y rheynn jeh parameteryn ayns y vod y stiureyder gas pobble y rheynn tariffyn (as dy yannoo correeaghyn er-y-fa shen); dy ghra rish Schedule 2 y Lagh shen dy choyrt da’n Choonceil ny Ministeryn yn phooar dy yannoo ordreeyn dy shaghey staydyn raad nagh vod y customer tariff y choyrt stiagh y sniaghtey jeh’n gas gys ny h-ellanyn; as son ymmyd ceaut. Lagh Screeuyn 2024 AN ACT dy choyrt stiagh y ghraih ayns Ellan y Rheynn Unnaneysit; dy ghra rish y Lagh 2014 son Terrorism as Crime Elley (Restrictions Financial) dy vod ad reddyn ry-cheilley ny s’drymmey rish reddyn co-ionnan rish lagh y Rheynn Unnaneysit; as son ymmyd ceaut. Lagh Tax Teihll 2024 AN ACT dy charrey yn Order 2023 son Tax Income (Allowance Persoonagh) (Tax Temporary); dy ghra rish y Lagh Tax Income 1970; as son ymmyd ceaut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfour Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Laa Tynwald feer vie da ooilley my chaarjyn ayns Ellan Vannin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 15 minutes ago, Jetfour said: Laa Tynwald feer vie da ooilley my chaarjyn ayns Ellan Vannin. very good , what is manx for useless cunts ?? i'm guessing it's tynwald ??? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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