Roger Ram Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Who is at fault here then? You would think they would be capable of working together to make sure important events like this went ahead. ” URGENT NEWS FROM MANX AUTOSPORT Saturday 6 July 2024 Chris Kelly Memorial Rally will not run in 2024 The Directors of Manx Autosport have to announce that the Club has not gained consent from the Department of Infrastructure to run the Chris Kelly Memorial Rally in September 2024. The application was submitted on 18 October 2023 and the Club received a reply in early March 2024 after it had requested an update on the submission. The Department gave the Club three weeks to re-submit all the information required to run the rally and in the Department’s opinion it was incomplete and not acceptable. The information contained in the application included an Event Safety Plan, an Event Risk Assessment, an overall stage plan and the application form. The Club did not submit a Traffic Management Plan and Stage Safety Plan as it had not received an acceptance for the proposed route. The Club followed the protocol that it has used several times with the exception that it started the application many months earlier following a request to do so from the Department of Infrastructure. On 30 March 2024 the Club re-submitted its amended plans to the Department but this was also rejected, on 14 May 2024, for the same reasons. At no point have the Directors and team at Manx Autosport been made aware of what in, particular, the Department was unhappy with, but the Club’s application emphasised that all its documents were live and could and would be improved upon or extended as and when required. Since the announcement the Department has indicated that it would consider replying to the application within a couple of weeks. It is worth remembering that the events are put together by volunteers from both on the island and the UK. In conclusion, Manx Autosport is disappointed that so many volunteers, competitors and Isle of Man businesses will feel let down by this decision. Issued by Paul Lawrence (07778 547918) on behalf of Manx Auto Sport. For more details, please visit the website at: manxautosport.org or e-mail: manxautosport@gmail.com Awesome Photos provided by Lucas Croydon Photography” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 It looks like yet another incident of red tape (and if there's none there, we'll create some anyway, just in case). However, these days IoMG also displays remarkable lack of enthusiasm when it comes to enabling any events (especially relatively big/popular ones) that it is not "organising" itself and more pointedly, do not result in direct revenue to it. The church food market during TT this year being another example. In short, if the Govt hasn't got its fingers in it or isn't receiving direct financial benefit from it, then "it" will receive little help. If this event is lost it will be a great disappointment to organisers, participants and followers alike, not to mention the blow to the hospitality and accommodation industry. 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 This is the Department of Enterprise's Department Plan for 2024-25: https://www.gov.im/media/1383993/final-department-plan-2024_compressed.pdf There is a section on Motorsports, which discusses ..... the TT and nothing else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idleweiss Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 18 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: It looks like yet another incident of red tape (and if there's none there, we'll create some anyway, just in case). However, these days IoMG also displays remarkable lack of enthusiasm when it comes to enabling any events (especially relatively big/popular ones) that it is not "organising" itself and more pointedly, do not result in direct revenue to it. The church food market during TT this year being another example. In short, if the Govt hasn't got its fingers in it or isn't receiving direct financial benefit from it, then "it" will receive little help. If this event is lost it will be a great disappointment to organisers, participants and followers alike, not to mention the blow to the hospitality and accommodation industry. To be fair though. If it was a cycling event someone would have creamed their pants to close down half the IOM for it. Rallying has been out of favour with the DOI for years now. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Department of Incompetence strikes again!!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 typical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 The rally earlier this year was oversubscribed and a great success, there was a lot of hope for the future. So obviously can't have that! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 This has got the Ex police who are now responsible for TT and safety and the likes stamp all over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 3 hours ago, Roger Ram said: Who is at fault here then? You would think they would be capable of working together to make sure important events like this went ahead. ” URGENT NEWS FROM MANX AUTOSPORT Saturday 6 July 2024 Chris Kelly Memorial Rally will not run in 2024 The Directors of Manx Autosport have to announce that the Club has not gained consent from the Department of Infrastructure to run the Chris Kelly Memorial Rally in September 2024. The application was submitted on 18 October 2023 and the Club received a reply in early March 2024 after it had requested an update on the submission. The Department gave the Club three weeks to re-submit all the information required to run the rally and in the Department’s opinion it was incomplete and not acceptable. The information contained in the application included an Event Safety Plan, an Event Risk Assessment, an overall stage plan and the application form. The Club did not submit a Traffic Management Plan and Stage Safety Plan as it had not received an acceptance for the proposed route. The Club followed the protocol that it has used several times with the exception that it started the application many months earlier following a request to do so from the Department of Infrastructure. On 30 March 2024 the Club re-submitted its amended plans to the Department but this was also rejected, on 14 May 2024, for the same reasons. At no point have the Directors and team at Manx Autosport been made aware of what in, particular, the Department was unhappy with, but the Club’s application emphasised that all its documents were live and could and would be improved upon or extended as and when required. Since the announcement the Department has indicated that it would consider replying to the application within a couple of weeks. It is worth remembering that the events are put together by volunteers from both on the island and the UK. In conclusion, Manx Autosport is disappointed that so many volunteers, competitors and Isle of Man businesses will feel let down by this decision. Issued by Paul Lawrence (07778 547918) on behalf of Manx Auto Sport. For more details, please visit the website at: manxautosport.org or e-mail: manxautosport@gmail.com Awesome Photos provided by Lucas Croydon Photography” I have a feeling of déjà vu. Didn't this happen with a different rally last year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 1 hour ago, Happier diner said: I have a feeling of déjà vu. Didn't this happen with a different rally last year. It certainly happened in 2018 when Rally Isle of Man was cancelled under rather similar circumstances and allegations of lack of helpfulness and obstruction from DfE and DoI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 high time a few heads were knocked together ! apart from TT , which saved many businesses from going under ,its been a disastrous season particularly for the food and hospitality trade and its going to be one hell of a long winter , so lets see some leadership from the top before these events are welcomed elsewhere never to return same with the vintage bike event opposite the Villa Marina so successful last year and attracted thousands of people into town , but scrapped this year because DOI have allowed the sea wall builders the entire area alongside the war memorial as their builders compound , why the construction of the wall could not wait until after the MGP is beyond belief , but I guess the public and those trying to earn a living from businesses don't matter anymore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ram Posted July 6 Author Share Posted July 6 8 minutes ago, Omobono said: high time a few heads were knocked together ! apart from TT , which saved many businesses from going under ,its been a disastrous season particularly for the food and hospitality trade and its going to be one hell of a long winter , so lets see some leadership from the top before these events are welcomed elsewhere never to return same with the vintage bike event opposite the Villa Marina so successful last year and attracted thousands of people into town , but scrapped this year because DOI have allowed the sea wall builders the entire area alongside the war memorial as their builders compound , why the construction of the wall could not wait until after the MGP is beyond belief , but I guess the public and those trying to earn a living from businesses don't matter anymore To be fair. I am not sure building a sea wall in storm season is a great idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A fool and his money..... Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 3 minutes ago, Roger Ram said: To be fair. I am not sure building a sea wall in storm season is a great idea. Are you expecting it to be finished before then? 😄 I can guarantee the time was chosen to suit one of governments favourite contractors rather than anything else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 5 minutes ago, Roger Ram said: To be fair. I am not sure building a sea wall in storm season is a great idea. its only a few years ago you could not put up scaffolding or carry out building or major painting works on Douglas promenade after end of may and until the end of September , standards have dropped and thats why Douglas has become a shit hole and disgrace as a summer seasonal tourist destination , its generally November when the gales start ,and how long does it takes these guy's to build a simple wall no scaffolding , digging of footings required few steel reinforcing bars and a concrete moulded wall ,and I have yet to see anyone properly working on it yet for longer than a morning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 So you can't ave a rally but you can have a horse event on the roads down South this weekend? Seems much more dangerous to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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