puddy Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 Absolutely not. I love myself the way I am and cosmetic surgery would make me as ugly because it would mean that on some level I didn't actually like myself and wanted to conform. And boob jobs are simply raised scars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Klint Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 Penis enlargement for me, it's crap having a small one! Really hits the conscience straight in the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tea&Biscuits Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 I dont like the thought of cosmetic surgery at all, i feel like it is one group of people telling us how we ought to look??? The body ideals etc. Now its in fashion to have a big bum I mean WTF, next year it might be in fashion to have no bum and people will buy into this ideal and have surgery? I feel that surgery is useful when dealing with facial scars, burns, thread vains, acne etc, but to change the nose that you were born with or whatever I feel is a bit sinister? Okay so I dont live with the problem of what society might think is a "horrible" or large nose, but not eveyone is perfect and we all have things about us that we or maybe others dont like? I just cant get my head round the "choices" we have in life now, maybe so much choices causes depression and a feeling of inadequacy? Its like if you dont live up to a certain ideal then you have a choice to change that - whereas before all this you would have to just deal with it and work on becoming confident an loving yourself. Now if you dont like somethin about you, you just pop to the clinic and erase it - but is this going to give you confidence in yourself long term? No I guess you get confidence in the surgeon and society tellin you "you look amazing" etc. Now people argue and say that if someone has something that they really hate about themselves and that if they can have an operation to change that, it will make them muchs happier, but does it really? I dont know? So in conclusion, I dont like the idea of surgery and I would be really worried if a friend of mine wanted to do it? I think that we as a society should become more tolerant to our diversity of looks and nt feed this monster of all of us looking like we are perfect and ageless! Plastic surgeons also always look abit dodgey as well!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddy Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 One of my sisters is 16 and although it was a difficult time for me ten or so years ago, I do think that image-wise there's a lot more pressure on young people now. Or maybe it's just because I was never really bothered. She broke her nose twice as a child but there was nothing they could do. We have to wait until it stops growing, which it probably has already, but 18 is the age we were told to wait until. Anyway, she has a boxer's nose, not the long and straight family nose but I don't even see it, she's just beautiful to me. I know she sees it though and she goes through phases of being very confident and then someone will say something about her nose (like a nasty girl did behind her back last week and I'm still fuming) and her confidence is shattered again. She could possibly have a nose job on the NHS, as we were told this years ago, although the dents don't actually restrict her breathing in any way, it would only be for cosmetic reasons so I don't know if they would be prepared to fund it. I don't even know if she would want to go through with it. Like I said, she goes through phases and she is beautiful. If I broke my nose tomorrow, I'd want it fixed, but it would probably never be the same again nomatter how much surgery I had, so I wouldn't really know what to do. Although it's not the nose she was born with, it's the only nose she's ever known. I talk to her and tell her about how to feel good about yourself and that people who say negative things about others only do so because they're unhappy with themselves. I hope she grows in confidence and doesn't think about it again, but there are times when my definite "no" to 'cosmetic' surgery can be changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhumsaa Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 you can get cosmetic surgery on the NHS if you can prove psychologically that it is harmful to your self confidence and effects your life etc I'm no expert at all but it sounds like a reasonable request from your sister's situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 you can get cosmetic surgery on the NHS if you can prove psychologically that it is harmful to your self confidence and effects your life etc I'm no expert at all but it sounds like a reasonable request from your sister's situation Cosmetic surgery can be available on the NHS as Rhumsaa rightly points out, my own GP has considered reffering myself to have my nose reshaped, so i can actually breathe through the damn thing. Frankly i don't deserve having played rugby for a number of years. I think Puddy's sister has a strong case, particulary if she goes to her GP now. She's young, at a very critical period in her development. If she waits until say her 20's i suspect her GP may think that she has the means to pay herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonan3 Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 With regards to Puddy's sister. I think it's a great shame that there are so many incredibly shallow people who love to point out other people's physical differences. If she genuinely feels that it diminshes the quality of her life then there is no question about it at all - she should have the operation and it should be paid for by the health service. Thank heavens, though, that the majority of people, like Puddy, have the ability to see the real person rather than some minor fault, and can see the beauty that comes from inside rather than the insignificant surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Whilst I can sympathise with someone like P's sis, I really don't believe surgery like that should ever be available on the NHS - not when my grandparents are waiting 3 years for hip replacements, my father can only see the specialist once every 3 months for his medical conditions (because we can’t afford our own specialist over here, so he only flies here 4 times a year), and my grandfather is given cheaper surgery requiring a general anaesthetic despite there being a much easier, less risky op only requiring local anaesthetic – on two occasions, despite a general being hugely risky for elderly persons and him and our family being told he would have the other surgery. Until that sort of thing isn’t happening, I’m pretty much against cosmetic surgery being paid for by the NHS. (I appreciate it’s easy for me to say though, not having to see my sister struggle through her teens with a boxer’s nose.) 16 is pretty young to be making decisions like that anyway - everyone hates their image at 16 don't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButterflyMaiden Posted October 4, 2005 Author Share Posted October 4, 2005 Is it purely a personal decision anyhow ? I always imagined it would be ..but my husband is adamant he would not "allow" me to have plastic surgery. I must confess to mixed feelings (pleasure and resentment) regarding being allowed to do something ..but thats another question ... Does plastic surgery for cosmetic reasons impact on your partner and if so should he have a say in whether or not you proceed ? .. after all it could have serious consquences for your marriage or relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taken Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 As somone who has been through all the stress and strains of self doubt and weighing up pros and cons of surgery for years I finally picked up my balls to do something about what i was not happy with, and Im a much happier person for it. You live once so you may as well live a little bit happier if you have the power to change things. Im all for certain surgerys . I had no horror storys, and my results please me no end. The only painfull part was ppl on this island speculating and wispering about you !! Its your own body after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonan3 Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Is it purely a personal decision anyhow ?I always imagined it would be ..but my husband is adamant he would not "allow" me to have plastic surgery. I must confess to mixed feelings (pleasure and resentment) regarding being allowed to do something ..but thats another question ... Does plastic surgery for cosmetic reasons impact on your partner and if so should he have a say in whether or not you proceed ? .. after all it could have serious consquences for your marriage or relationship. If your partner is perfectly happy with your appearance then I would suggest that it ought to at least reduce the impetus for 'corrective' surgery. If your partner urges you to have it then there is, by the same token, already some kind of problem within the relationship. If, however, you feel a genuine need for such 'enhancement' or whatever, then I think that it's something that ought to be discussed - fully - with your partner so that he/she has a chance to understand your feelings about it. In a genuine partnership, every aspect of life should be shared. Personally, I wouldn't want my wife to change her appearance in any way - I love her as she is - but if it was desperately important to her sense of well-being then I guess I'd have to accept it, but I'd want to understand why it was so important to her first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonan3 Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Whilst I can sympathise with someone like P's sis, I really don't believe surgery like that should ever be available on the NHS - not when my grandparents are waiting 3 years for hip replacements, my father can only see the specialist once every 3 months for his medical conditions (because we can’t afford our own specialist over here, so he only flies here 4 times a year), and my grandfather is given cheaper surgery requiring a general anaesthetic despite there being a much easier, less risky op only requiring local anaesthetic – on two occasions, despite a general being hugely risky for elderly persons and him and our family being told he would have the other surgery. Until that sort of thing isn’t happening, I’m pretty much against cosmetic surgery being paid for by the NHS. (I appreciate it’s easy for me to say though, not having to see my sister struggle through her teens with a boxer’s nose.) 16 is pretty young to be making decisions like that anyway - everyone hates their image at 16 don't they? I think this story may be of interest to you: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1811888,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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