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31 minutes ago, WTF said:

so we should have a system in place that if there is a car accident and anyone requires emergency surgery that the entire road network is shut down and nobody can drive anything just in case there is another accident ?

Don’t they do that already, every time there is an RTA on the Mountain Road?

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7 hours ago, 2112 said:

The island isn’t just famous for motorsport (s), but it’s one of the main contributor to its economy, and something that the island relies heavily upon ……… so we are forever told. 

Generously the Motorsport sector brings in £50m [1], that's less than 1% of GDP. No doubt there are a small number of businesses (& various government office positions) that rely on it but in terms of the economy it is a splash in the bath.

 

[1] https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2023-09-19/more-than-43000-visitors-and-36-million-spent-at-the-isle-of-man-tt-2023

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11 minutes ago, Mercenary said:

Generously the Motorsport sector brings in £50m [1], that's less than 1% of GDP. No doubt there are a small number of businesses (& various government office positions) that rely on it but in terms of the economy it is a splash in the bath.

 

[1] https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2023-09-19/more-than-43000-visitors-and-36-million-spent-at-the-isle-of-man-tt-2023

Have they said what the net implication to the taxpayers are ? Ps I am generally in favour of a vibrant island, and delighted for private business but what is the actual cost to the public purse ?

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8 hours ago, wrighty said:

It’s not just here. The whole UK NHS is basically failing because the model is broken and nobody will accept that (for fear of electoral annihilation)

The NHS model has been deliberately broken. The NHS in the UK has gone to shit because of all the outsourcing and “competition”. Manx Care was clearly set up as a precursor to privatisation. It won’t be so bad if we went back to the original NHS setup instead of all these commissioning groups and all the other bottom feeders, the Manx Care board being the ultimate example of a pointless quango.

The real problem is that healthcare is expensive, as we see with the utterly insane medical bills in the US. I’d agree we need an honest conversation about who pays.

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1 hour ago, WTF said:

so we should have a system in place that if there is a car accident and anyone requires emergency surgery that the entire road network is shut down and nobody can drive anything just in case there is another accident ?

That’s not the same really is it? It’s very difficult to have a sensible discussion about anything to do with road-racing, as is so often demonstrated here. 

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Perhaps this is a bit of a wake up call underlining the very real issues in the NHS.  Fortunately, this was a high risk situation that could be halted, many others do not have that luxury. 

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1 hour ago, Ringy Rose said:

Every time I think Hooper can’t possibly be any more of an utter prick he goes and blasts through my expectations.

I agree that Hooper is an arrogant prick but this isn’t one of the many times he demonstrates that fact. 

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40 minutes ago, Gladys said:

Perhaps this is a bit of a wake up call underlining the very real issues in the NHS.  Fortunately, this was a high risk situation that could be halted, many others do not have that luxury. 

Or should the S100 update their procedures to cancel the evening events after sending riders off with severe injuries. As Wrighty has said, the hospital are set up for dealing with one person at a time in the operating theatre (as they always have been) - is it reasonable to just ignore this and carry on regardless?

 

The other side to it is if there's an incident involving travelling marshals, most events would cancel and urgently review and brief riders ahead of re-running. Blaming 'lack of capacity at the hospital' seems shirking all responsibility.

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4 minutes ago, Mercenary said:

Or should the S100 update their procedures to cancel the evening events after sending riders off with severe injuries. As Wrighty has said, the hospital are set up for dealing with one person at a time in the operating theatre (as they always have been) - is it reasonable to just ignore this and carry on regardless?

 

The other side to it is if there's an incident involving travelling marshals, most events would cancel and urgently review and brief riders ahead of re-running. Blaming 'lack of capacity at the hospital' seems shirking all responsibility.

I don't know the circumstances of last night's accident, but the organisers do have a responsibility not only to the riders and spectators, but also the health service, to minimise the impact. 

I am certainly not blaming the hospital, just pointing out that there isn't the slack in the system to cope with serious incidents.  This one could be halted, others can't.  That is not the health service's fault as we all acknowledge the broken model. 

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