joebean Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/just-three-successful-candidates-from-40-to-join-the-police/ Another interesting snippet which demonstrates how the Constabulary deteriorated under Gary Roberts. Morale dropped, retention issues increased and nothing was done to make the police an attractive career in terms of pay or culture. The CC busied himself pontificating in his annual reports about the challenges the Constabulary faced and handing out meaningless awards to officers doing their jobs but the major issues were left unaddressed. The current CC is going to have some task in turning things around. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/only-a-single-complaint-against-the-isle-of-man-police-upheld-report-702138 Current one isn't appearing much better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 32k starting pay sounded pretty good to 40 people? They don't say why 37 were not suitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 26 minutes ago, Kopek said: 32k starting pay sounded pretty good to 40 people? They don't say why 37 were not suitable. They couldn’t work this out. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, Kopek said: 32k starting pay sounded pretty good to 40 people? They don't say why 37 were not suitable. They didn't bring their own balaclavas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, Kopek said: 32k starting pay sounded pretty good to 40 people? They don't say why 37 were not suitable A decent salary and the only requirement (as far as I see) is GCSE English. Pretty much everyone qualifies for that. The plus point is that the police did not hold back from handing out the "fail" certificates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, Kopek said: 32k starting pay sounded pretty good to 40 people? They don't say why 37 were not suitable. their parents were married. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 The police seem to have an increasingly negative reputation in the community, tasering the drunk guy in pulrose a few months ago and being arses on social media won't help. At least you get to practise active shooter drills in the local schools and play dress up in the latest toys. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 minute ago, cissolt said: The police seem to have an increasingly negative reputation in the community, tasering the drunk guy in pulrose a few months ago and being arses on social media won't help. At least you get to practise active shooter drills in the local schools and play dress up in the latest toys. Just the way of the world police forces across the world are seen as negative. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 In a not's so far off jurisdiction ie Toy Town they are not seen as a negative, in fact the gruff but fair PC Badger is loved by one and all. That is apart from Shoddy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, Two-lane said: A decent salary and the only requirement (as far as I see) is GCSE English. Pretty much everyone qualifies for that. The plus point is that the police did not hold back from handing out the "fail" certificates. Really, have you seen the social media posts from a lot of people... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 3 hours ago, Kopek said: 32k starting pay sounded pretty good to 40 people? They don't say why 37 were not suitable. I know some people who have applied and failed the fitness test (several times). I'm not sure how challenging the requirements are, but put it this way, I would have been very confident making a medium paced jog get away from that person. A friend's wife also applied last year and was told some weird conflicting bollox that initially she wasn't confident/authoritarian enough, then told she wasn't empathetic enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizo Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 3 hours ago, Kopek said: 32k starting pay sounded pretty good to 40 people? They don't say why 37 were not suitable. Questions on the test. do you like guns? were you bullied at school? If yes to both. Congratulations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 2 minutes ago, Gizo said: Questions on the test. do you like guns? were you bullied at school? If yes to both. Congratulations. Are you named after an F1 racing driver? is another question allegedly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 4 hours ago, joebean said: https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/just-three-successful-candidates-from-40-to-join-the-police/ Another interesting snippet which demonstrates how the Constabulary deteriorated under Gary Roberts. Morale dropped, retention issues increased and nothing was done to make the police an attractive career in terms of pay or culture. The CC busied himself pontificating in his annual reports about the challenges the Constabulary faced and handing out meaningless awards to officers doing their jobs but the major issues were left unaddressed. The current CC is going to have some task in turning things around. This is all pretty much nonsense. Roberts was pretty vocal about morale and retention, but there was little he could do about either because he doesn't control overall pay or budget. Police pay is normally tied to that in the UK. And the Police have been doling out 'meaningless awards' to themselves for as long as I can remember. In that sense the rest of the the bureaucratic structure is just catching up with them. As for culture, it doesn't seem to have improved much under the new Chief Constable unless you're a fan of police entrapment and waving guns around for no particular reason. If police budgets are being exceeded we can see the reasons and if you're trying clear the streets of cocaine a gramme at a time, it's going to be an infinitely long and expensive process. Virtue signalling and security theatre may impress the politicians, but the public may be less so. It's not surprising that the police are having problems recruiting in an employment environment where, for demographic and financial reason, vacancies outnumber jobseekers massively. The only surprise is that they managed to attract 40 to apply - and then rejected nearly all of them. Possibly the rest failed the 'meaningless business-babble' test if HR were involved. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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