x-in-man Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 29 minutes ago, Gizo said: Questions on the test. do you like guns? were you bullied at school? If yes to both. Congratulations. Questions on the test. Are expecting to have 9 month off on the sick just after you start? If yes -Congratulations. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyWolf Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 (edited) Sorry Roger but Robert’s was awful full stop. The new guy has inherited a force with a low bar. Edited July 11 by GreyWolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebushy Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 2 hours ago, Gizo said: Questions on the test. do you like guns? were you bullied at school? If yes to both. Congratulations. Reckon you could TASER a dog? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 8 hours ago, joebean said: https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/just-three-successful-candidates-from-40-to-join-the-police/ Another interesting snippet which demonstrates how the Constabulary deteriorated under Gary Roberts. Morale dropped, retention issues increased and nothing was done to make the police an attractive career in terms of pay or culture. The CC busied himself pontificating in his annual reports about the challenges the Constabulary faced and handing out meaningless awards to officers doing their jobs but the major issues were left unaddressed. The current CC is going to have some task in turning things around. A tad unfair in some respects. We've been here before and it is a cyclical issue related to pay an opportunities, with a dose of nationally negative press. Forces across the UK are struggling with recruitment and retention. Locally I recall running a process around 2002/3 where we had plenty of applicants but three passed. Standards of written English was one particular issue - which was being reflected nationally. At one stage the force really was the employer of choice. A five year pay freeze came along and the wages ended up around 15-20% out of kilter as to where they would have been. We started losing people back to the public and private sector. It's never really recovered from there. So no, it wasn't 'Gary's fault' 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 2 hours ago, GreyWolf said: Sorry Roger but Robert’s was awful full stop. The new guy has inherited a force with a low bar. then he started digging... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 3 hours ago, The Phantom said: I know some people who have applied and failed the fitness test (several times). I'm not sure how challenging the requirements are, but put it this way, I would have been very confident making a medium paced jog get away from that person. the beep test isn't as easy as you might think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Derek Flint said: A tad unfair in some respects. We've been here before and it is a cyclical issue related to pay an opportunities, with a dose of nationally negative press. Forces across the UK are struggling with recruitment and retention. Locally I recall running a process around 2002/3 where we had plenty of applicants but three passed. Standards of written English was one particular issue - which was being reflected nationally. At one stage the force really was the employer of choice. A five year pay freeze came along and the wages ended up around 15-20% out of kilter as to where they would have been. We started losing people back to the public and private sector. It's never really recovered from there. So no, it wasn't 'Gary's fault' Question …one thing I’ve noticed on recent intakes to the Police of say 12 successful applicants 7 or 8 of them have been female. I have zero problem with that and fair play to the Females stepping up but operationally is that ever a problem. Physically there not as strong and able to apprehend a drunken guy etc but I’d say male suspects are less likely to hit a police woman . Is the physicality an issue currently with recruitment. I do know that the general fitness levels of new recruits is less than it used to be. Remember recruits coming into Summerland many years ago to be assessed with bleep tests and the likes. I’d be surprised if the female numbers are less than 40% of the force. I will reiterate I have zero problem with that from a numerical situation just have concerns as to physicality. Just the size alone of a male can be a deterrent and a calming influence in many situations I’d of said. I would also say it’s possible a female officer might be more effective in tone and attitude… Thoughts please ? Edited July 11 by Numbnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Just now, WTF said: the beep test isn't as easy as you might think. It's not that hard... "You're ****ing nicked!"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 (edited) 12 minutes ago, WTF said: the beep test isn't as easy as you might think. It’s not and they definately used to use it in the mid 90’s but visually many of the current force for sure don’t look very fit. might have been even early than 90’s when I noticed it…..sorry Edited July 11 by Numbnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 3 minutes ago, Numbnuts said: It’s not and they definately used to use it in the mid 90’s but visually many of the current force for sure don’t look very fit. Yeah unfortunately I've done quite a few beep tests over the years. Do they have ongoing fitness tests? Or just one at recruitment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 (edited) 18 minutes ago, The Phantom said: Yeah unfortunately I've done quite a few beep tests over the years. Do they have ongoing fitness tests? Or just one at recruitment? Not sure but years ago they used to take recruits up the hills for a serious hike. Along with the likes of Bleep tests and similar . . I’d say they might be a minimum requirement now but maybe the bar is set low. Having said that there’s been some really fit and active officers in recent years whose fitness levels would be as good as it gets . Edited July 11 by Numbnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 17 minutes ago, The Phantom said: Yeah unfortunately I've done quite a few beep tests over the years. Do they have ongoing fitness tests? Or just one at recruitment? Yep every year there's a fitness test bleep test included. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, Numbnuts said: Question …one thing I’ve noticed on recent intakes to the Police of say 12 successful applicants 7 or 8 of them have been female. I have zero problem with that and fair play to the Females stepping up but operationally is that ever a problem. Physically there not as strong and able to apprehend a drunken guy etc but I’d say male suspects are less likely to hit a police woman . Is the physicality an issue currently with recruitment. I do know that the general fitness levels of new recruits is less than it used to be. Remember recruits coming into Summerland many years ago to be assessed with bleep tests and the likes. I’d be surprised if the female numbers are less than 40% of the force. I will reiterate I have zero problem with that from a numerical situation just have concerns as to physicality. Just the size alone of a male can be a deterrent and a calming influence in many situations I’d of said. I would also say it’s possible a female officer might be more effective in tone and attitude… Thoughts please ? Simply- some of the best of the best. And bloody fierce fighters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 2 minutes ago, Derek Flint said: Simply- some of the best of the best. And bloody fierce fighters! Is that a current accurate assessment or one from your time. There’s so many more female officers now than in your time . Again would say I have no issues and fair play to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfc84 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Copper: GCSE = £32k Health: degree and debt = £22k 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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